Interesting tactical analysis of our systems under Struber

Worrying to hear Haynes Manuals described as idiot's manuals - everytime I've looked at one I couldn't make head or tail of them!

 

Wind-ups are lying, even claiming to be playing the Devils advocate (particularly when you’re not) Is not being truthful either to yourself or to the people you’re trying to make a point to. Also, constantly calling people who disagree with you ‘thick fookers‘ and accusing them of not understanding your point are acceptable are they?

 

sorry mate we used to call them idiots guides not idiots manuals, all the same a cracking publication and saved me a fair few quid over the years

 

I’m shocked that you feel you have become the victim here.

To paraphrase your first 2 paragraphs, ‘not many on here or in the stands know much about tactics, all they and you are bothered about is a few pints and a pie, and a sing along. Whilst Me on the other hand, well I’m different, I’m deeper than you lot.’

 

Had a paperback one for a Lada I briefly owned many years ago. It came in handy to wedge shut what I called the furnace door - which otherwise fell open and roasted the inhabitants alive in high summer!

 

So you knew you were being condescending and posted it anyway?

Sounds about right.

Your analysis is always in depth, I don’t always agree with all of it, but it is clearly well thought through.

But your attitude often, in fact always, comes across as one of superiority - you know better than everybody else.

Shame really. It is difficult to interact with you as you refuse to take any other view on board, (or at least generally dismiss it as being less valid than yours); though the amount you clearly care about the club and the time you spend breaking down each performance would make it a very interesting conversation - were it not so one sided.

 

Whenever you hear ‘Can’t believe they get paid that to kick a bag of wind about’ show them this article lol

 

Sadly, i’m not.

He says he reads every post directed at him. There are many on here, and dozens of previous threads, which are in no way nasty or insulting, thank him for the time taken for the analysis, but point out the tone doesn’t need to be as it is.

He continually refuses to accept any of it, but carries on believing it’s everyone else and not his posting that is the issue and sits atop his mountain of superiority looking down at the rest of us who know nothing whatsoever.

I’ve let myself down here as I’ve said in the past I wouldn’t converse with Red Rain or respond to his posts for this reason, yet I’ve been drawn in again.

 

Yes - yer right.
Although saying that there are some fik foookers on here - especially those that read something that they don’t like or they dont understand - so they retreat to their safe little default corner of calling the poster a WUM.

 

Red Rain v Young Nudger.

A clash of the titans.

 

I think you and Red Rain have got more in common than either of you would like to admit

 

You are not understanding what people are saying here.
There is no problem if you disagree with me (although you will obviously be in the minority if you do).
Disagreement and argument is what this message board is all about.
Without it - the message board dies.
What people are trying (I think?) to do is point out that you are telling people what they are thinkIng.

BTW - I do realise that under Struber we are seeing something that we haven’t seen before.
And I also believe that most Barnsley fans can see this - as do other clubs in the Championship.

 

Frigging Hell.

I’ve liked 2 of Nudgers posts in one thread.

Strike me down and call me Sandra.

 

You could fill Madison Square Garden with eager fight fans for this one, even in the age of the 'rona.

Might Nudger's tried and trusted technique of leading with his 'thick foooooooooker' jab, behind a solid defence of wummery, eventually break the honed, rippling surface of condescension which has long been fortified by the certainty that nobody else knows what a regista or an inverted wing-back is? Will the 'think for thi foooking sen uppercut' have the edge over the famed 'disdain combo'?

I reckon it's going to points.

 

I will write the bout up with my own specialist analyses that I've been studying that you lesser mortals definitely know nothing about. I shall call it Asininity Report.

 

I rest my case m’lord, They are actually complimenting you by calling you a WUM given the content of most of your posts

 

Thanks for posting. wouldn't have seen this otherwise.
Like many I'm v interested in football tactics and in particular our own.
Gerhard is certainly clear in his mind how he wants us to play and the article supports that. Interesting part was the view that we prefer sides who like to build from the back rather than the more direct approach...a point made ny RR in the after match analysis after the two Stoke debacles.
Many teams adopt the press these days and I personally like the principle of pestering teams to death when they have the ball...on condition that we keep our defensive shape. Clearly there's more to the press than just buzzing around like swarming wasps. However if the swarm can be organised properly it can be successful (Liverpool being a case in point).
Lee Johnson wanted the swarm and eventually it worked for him with us in the latter part of his tenure.
Daniel operated the press / swarm in our promotion season v effectively but I dont think he's as tactically adept as Gerhard and he was too cavalier leaving gaping defensive holes; particularly in the championship.
The good thing we have currently is that this group do now know their jobs. Our manager has imposed his style and his objectives are clear. I think we can maintain our momentum and the patience I was preaching at at the start of Gerhards rein and throughout last season might, at last, come to fruition this next season in the shape of better results.
The future is bright. The future is red.

 

It was hard to judge anything from the low camera angle in the Newcastle game, but worryingly, their first goal looked as though it came when we had over-committed forward, and our press was breached. Ludewig was caught too high, and Newcastle got a runner from deep in on Sollbauer in our right back position. He turned inside an found a second unmarked runner who carried the ball into our box before freeing the goal scorer. It came during a half in which we otherwise seemed to control the game, but it does show that the press can be broken if we over-commit.

The article talked about triggers, but I am at a loss to see what they are. Obviously, a trigger must be clear to all the team, because every player has to modify their game as a result, but I do not yet understand how it works.

It is also clear that our system is very different to that which earned us promotion.to the Premier League under Danny Wilson, even though both systems were 3 at the back with wing backs. For a start, in Wilson's team, it was important that the 3 centre backs stayed close to one another. In Struber's system, Sollbauer and Williams are almost full backs some times, with Andersen on his own in the centre. I do not understand how this is supposed to work, and TV coverage of games is not helping either.

 

One of the things I noticed is that although we pressed and played very well at times we didn’t score .
Which in turn imo enabled Toon to stay patient and try and catch us on the break .
If we had scored early on and threatened to score more I think it would have been a different game with Toon using different tactics .
I’m not sure whether Toon did just enough to win or we really ruffled them but a decent finisher for me would obviously make a big difference .

 

The thing about our finishers is this, neither will score many goals, but the way that they play is vital to us defensively. I bet that there is not a harder working front two in the league. Of course, we would all like to be watching a player who can work as hard as they do, but who can finish as well. The thing is though, such a player would cost £millions, a figure that is well outside our budget. Many think that height is the answer, but can a big man work as hard as those two do. I do not think that there is a big man on the planet that can work as hard as they do, who can win balls in the air and hold the ball up, and score goals too. I thought Kieffer Moore was a big loss, but clearly, no-one else inside the club shared that view, and the reasoning is as I have outlined.