Are you downloading the covid App

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Are you downloading the covid App

Poll closed Oct 1, 2020.
  1. Yes I plan to download it /have already done so

    78 vote(s)
    48.4%
  2. No

    49 vote(s)
    30.4%
  3. Waiting a few days to see what problems occur before deciding

    34 vote(s)
    21.1%
  1. Gud

    GudjonFan Well-Known Member

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    The QR Code enables the contract tracers to marry up individuals that have given their written details to the venue with app users that have scanned the code.

    I think you are correct in that if everyone used Bluetooth, we wouldn’t need to check in at all.
     
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  2. Redstone

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    So if you can't get the app due to incompatible phone or not having a smartphone are places refusing entry?
     
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    Ive downloaded It but it seems both useless and pointless. Ho hum
     
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    Some places refusing entry to anyone who doesn't log in using the app. These businesses deserve to go bust.
     
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    Redstone Well-Known Member

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    Which places are these? I wouldn't say anyone deserves to go bust. It's a choice I guess. Personally I'll avoid such places as long a possible.
     
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    red24/7 Well-Known Member

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    my son says you can not get into kfc without app
     
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    It all seems OTT when the infections aren't going in the direction the scientists tried to scare us all with.

     
  9. Shy Talk

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    If that trend continues the Cummings Consortium (formerly known as Government) will use that chart to claim a huge success.
    And millions of Gammons will believe them.
     
  10. Red

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    You can write down any name and number though so it,s pointless.
    They are just doing it right.
     
  11. Redstone

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    Here's a form one lady on Twitter said she was asked to fill in to enter a pub and provide the reason for her mask exemption. Is that legal?

    IMG_20200927_200851.jpg
     
  12. dreamboy3000

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    Not if the place you've entered ring the number given to show it's a real one.
     
  13. Shy Talk

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    If the reason is disability that's all they're entitled to know. It's illegal to insist on knowing the nature of a person's disability.
     
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    The guidence is you do not challenge someone if they are exempt from wearing a mask. You do not under any circumstances have to explain your exemption unless you are happy to do so.

    If you have an exemption and the establishment is pushing they leave themselves open to breaching the equalities act.

    If the establishment is writing down the reasons for exemption they have to be utterly vauge and ensure they cannot be linked back to the customer.

    Otherwise its a utter clusterfuck around the equalities act breaching gov guidence and gdpr.

    Basically that pub can get its self into a right old pile of steaming *****.
     
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    Now it's different if someone won't download it but could, compared to if someone cannot download it because their phone isn't compatible or they don't have a phone. But the business should have just took a name and number as has been the case for a few months.

     
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    Perhaps, just perhaps, the number of people writing false names and numbers on entering a premises has made the ability to track and trace customers after an outbreak much more difficult - especially in pubs and bars. It could also be being mandated from above that premises need to force customers to use the app to comply with the law, for insurance purposes, or a multitude of other reasons. If the #KBF loons are entering incorrect information, then they could be forcing the use of the app for customers.

    And for those asking about it not letting you "check out" of a venue - the best solution I've seen appears to be to apply for your own QR code for home - https://www.gov.uk/create-coronavirus-qr-poster
     
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    There is nothing to stop a business ringing the number given to see for themselves that it's not a fake number. It's also on the Gov website section about the app that having the app isn't a condition of entry.
     
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    From the Govt website

    In England, you do not have to request details from people who check in with the official NHS QR poster, and venues should not ask them to do both. Venues must not make the specific use of the NHS QR code a precondition of entry (as the individual has the right to choose to provide their contact details if they prefer). Should someone choose to check in with the official NHS QR poster, a venue should check their phone screen to ensure they have successfully checked in.

    I think that deffo says they should not
     
  19. DEETEE

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    You are looking at it wrong.

    Its a data protection issue. Whats easier getting someone to use an app or having the responsibility of being both the data controller and the processor.
    Not withstanding ensuring that the data is kept secure.

    And lose the obsession with pubs and bars.

    Unless you are going to put the same effort into cafes, restaurants, mosques,churches, cinemas etc.

    Youve mentioned 'spoons and their staff being such a high risk.

    Well lets revisit this. 66 members of staff out of 42k. Over a ten week period. Covering 830 pubs.

    Hardly epidemic.

    Be more off sick eating the **** they call food.
     
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    Apart from being utterly destroyed by the ICO.
     
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