Do I remember the club (Grove street mafia) saying the Brown money would be re-invested in the team ? Pretty sure it was Dane ! Looking a bit bleak even before the game Struber said he wanted as many as possible through the door ! Well if some leave Bahre would be obvious first and anymore with no incoming it’s time to chalk **** as we are a joke and fans ar3 being taken for mugs ! Go for it Clappy Happers
Exactly. They say that every penny we get from transfers gets reinvested back in to the team. Has anyone actually worked out the money in from sales of players and the money out for new signings? It seems to me that if we get £2m for a player we spend £500-700k on a new signing (if we make one) so where’s the rest going...
Plus the wages of the outgoing players will exceed those of the incoming ones too. That’s more money in their coffers. There’s a reason why we’re shopping in Austria of all places.....
Wages. Assume we pay 700k for the player. 3 year contract and pay him 10k per week That comes to 2.2million. Also it’s not as simple as going to Tesco and selecting a player off the shelf. We have to find players that fit our wage structure, would improve on what we have and want to come. I am sure that the club are trying to find players but it’s not easy
Doesn’t the wage of the outgoing player offset the wage of the incoming player? I mean they get two million plus reduce the wage bill by say £10k per week for the outgoing player..?
No way are the players incoming earning more than the outgoing player. Also the wage of the outgoing player would stop and part of it or in some rare cases all of it would go to the new signing. So we are not using an extra wage if 1 out 1 in
We’ve signed 3 players plus brought in a loan. I reckon the wages of those combined is comfortably more than Jacob Brown’s wages.
I agree with some of what you say but the club itself does not run on fresh air , there are a lot of none playing staff to pay , the ground staff , office staff etc also running costs of ground rent , electricity , insurance , travel costs etc etc the list is endless & with no match day income I believe some of the incoming cash from sales must be used to keep the club afloat whilst there seems to be a belief that once a player is signed that is that but each player wants paying every month , last year we averaged over 13,000 , this year we have sold 7500 season tickets at rock bottom prices , financially difficult times . Hopefully we can still strengthen because its clear we need the squad improving but I do not expect a lot of cash being thrown at it .
Well yes but they was already here before the sale of browny. So that money was already in the pot. Plus all the players that was released also freed up wage bills
There’s no way we can bring in three players without selling somebody. Once they came in, someone would have to go to bring money in.
Definitely. But after listening to Danes last interview about cash he says we are in a better place than most, which lead me to believe we would be more comfortable using sale money to improve the squad. There can’t be a single soul that can’t see we need to improve the 1st team and I’m far from saying we need to break the bank but we need to be looking at using the cash wisely and not just looking at up and coming players. Let’s get someone in that can actually kick on from day one. Surely there’s someone that can identify a player that can do that, maybe spending more than we usually do but that’s what we will have to do. £1-2m spend could get in a decent striker better than we have at the minute.
There is also the players wages included for the duration of the contract that’s why the board are only spending a fraction of itransfer fees that come in
Reduce the wages by 10k per week? What do you think we were paying Brown and how much do you think we pay Frieser? I really don’t know if we have saved money and pay Frieser less than Brown but if we do the difference will be no where near 10k When we sign players like Schmidt Mads and Halme I am sure the wages are relatively low. But the players Struber wants with experience won’t come cheap. Sollbauer Ritzmaer Helik and Frieser will be on higher wages than the players we signed last summer. Don’t forget as well this season our income is much reduced with Season ticket revenue down by at least a third and no match day sales away support etc As I’ve said elsewhere I am no great fan of our owners but I don’t think the criticism this window is justified
Do you think the club hasn't been trying to sign players? As usual Dane has made a rod for his own back by saying it'll be reinvested in the team. Folk take that as, we'll spunk every penny of it on the next player who walks through the door. I assume some of it was used to fund Helik and Frieser, and some of it will be used on the player(s) we're trying to sign before the close of business tomorrow.
Bahre can stay for me if Struber goes. He's not suited as a presser but there is a player there for me. First out the door if I had my say would be Victor and George 'main target' Miller. Woeful at this level and proof that the sainted model is flawed
whilst I agree that Victor and Miller are not the players you use to back up the model and need to move on it doesn’t prove anything Brown and Victor both developed in our U23 team I saw them both in a game against Pompey a few years ago and on that one viewing Victor looked the better prospect Brown proves the model works some of the time. We have in recent times made good money from Potts Bradshaw Pinnock Lindsay and now Brown the model isn’t perfect but we will always get some right and some wrong
Our owners are worth 7bn tho, 7bn pounds. Why cant we expect them to invest a bit of that like every other team in our division. Im not saying we gotta do a wednesday or a wigan, just give ourselves a chance to progress a bit. Were being run like weve got a local business man in charge whos got 10m int bank. Im sure im gonna get the usual "but why should they put their money in", my response to that is why bother then, why bother takin over a football club theyve never heard of miles away to just make the kind of profit they could by taking over a macdonalds franchise in wakey. Just seems barmy to me. Theyve not even spent a penny on buying the club and they took a high interest loan out to buy players and used the club as collateral, so not only are they not spending one penny, theyre burdening us with debt. To be bottom of the league all the time. I just dont get it at all. They say they invest every penny recieved from transfers, but what happened to the 4m from the Moore sale or the 2m+ from the brown sale, not to mention the many players sold or left over the summer. Its just so barnsley though that we get the richest owners in the league and we dont invest as much as say Luton, a fan owned club who are currently 4th. Regardless of their intentions or what people think of them, one things for sure, theyre making a right horlicks of it at minute.
Whilst I agree there are upsides to the model we just never tweak it. Brentford use a similar model but their's has taken an upward curve where ours has remained static. If you were to assign version control to our model I would call it v1. 0_L1 Where L1 = the division we have proved that it works
