Championship Quality

Seeing as the international transfer deadline has passed and the club have stated we'll be using the domestic transfer window to add quality to the squad.
Does anyone genuinely believe we have the pulling power to attract the necessary Championship quality to improve the squad, whereas we can only trade with Premier League teams or other EFL clubs?

 

I don't think we will, but hopefully we can do some business with lower league clubs.

Hourihane, Winnall, Scowen, Yiadom, Mawson, Roberts, McDonald, Pinnock etc were all sourced this way.

Fingers crossed.

 

For me we should be concentrating on the domestic market. The big money profits made over recent years haven't been on the players bought from overseas but either from lower English leagues or home grown academy products.

People keep saying there is better value bringing players from abroad but there is very little evidence currently to back that up but if Anderson can continue to improve and Helik settles and comes good, those two could turn a decent profit.

That is if the plan going forward remains to simply make a profit and not be competitive in the championship. I think the best we can hope for this window is a couple of prem loans but they will unlikely have much experience of proper misters football.

 

Championship quality, yes. Championship experience, probably not.

 

How many of them hit the ground running straight away in the championship?

 

When was the last time we signed a player that had played more than 50 times in the Championship? Mowatt? Cauley, maybe? But CW was hardly proven Championship quality. He was a lad that hadn't quite made the grade at Fulham.

As Wobschall asked in his article, are we only ever going to sign young lads that have some potential and then sell em on, but on that basis perennially bounce between League 1 and Championship?

The answer, based on all available evidence, is yes.

 

How long do we have to wait for the quality though?

 

Probably all on that list other than Pinnock though Mawson barely played for us in the championship.

 

It's all about signing the right player I suppose. Contrary to what our outgoing manager might think, I reckon Ben Whiteman would hit the ground running in this division, but who knows really. Every signing is a gamble to a certain extent.

 

quick answer would be no.

 

I think Isaac Christie-Davies would hit the ground running and Oduor should play more. We have players here already that are quite capable. I don't think there's owt to worry about now Struber has gone. He'd lost the dressing room and was taking us down.

 

Every signing is a gamble, you're right there, but how much time do we have left to gamble this season. We need quality now, not in 8 months time.

 

I'd strip it back to the bare bones and adopt the basics. This will achieve results in the short term. Any players brought in to hopefully strengthen us will be a bonus. I do think this team is good enough.

 

I think the point I was making more, was that, as we can't afford championship experienced players, we should be considering experienced league 1 players who we feel can make the step up.

I agree about Oduor, however I've not seen anything of Christie-Davies (other than YouTube clips of academy games) to say whether or not he's ready to play in the championship. As I say, every signing is a gamble to an extent.

 

I think that a key failure of the board has not actually been in not attracting the players who Struber wanted, such as (if we are to believe it) Dykes, Kulenovic etc, but the failure to secure sufficient prices on players sold. I am not saying that we had anyone who would have fetched the £28 million Brentford got for Watkins, or QPR for Eze, but we could and should have done better with the price tags for Kieffer Moore (now established Welsh international) and Jacob Brown. We are told that the latter could rise to £5 million, but watch him be sold before that happens, so that Stoke avoid the additional costs. Brentford have been able, of course, to beat us to the midfielder and QPR have been able to beat us to Dykes and Bonne (if true) because they had the money from out-going transfers to invest, whereas we did not to the same extent. It seems to me that it is the lack of income from outgoing transfers which has tied our hands and the board might reflect on what difference just an additional couple of million on those two transfers could have made to secure Dykes and/or Kulenovic. Can we get someone to a conference run by Darren McAnthony on how to stand up for the best price you can with outgoing transfers?

 

Basics? like 4 - 4 - f*ckin 2?

Seriously though, the team was good enough last season. We've lost Brown, Ludewig and Ritz (!). We've added Freiser and Helik. Is Isaac ready yet? Give him a try. However, we need more quality now because A) that's what the board said we would do, invest monies back in the squad and B) we need to progress - not be in the bottom 4 all the time

 

We comfortable avoided relegation with them in the same side so I'd say pretty quickly.

What's your argument? That they were bad signings? I don't understand your point.

Edit: obviously they all weren't in the same side at the same time.

 

But how will we know what we've signed until they've played a hand full of games. We could go out, spend £5m on an experienced championship player, on £20k a week, and they could be dreadful. That's why I don't mind the owners being measured in their approach to signings, I'd rather they took their time, got the right player on deadline day, than sign the wrong player and then have to try and move them on before we can bring someone else in, a bit like with Ritzmaier.

For arguments sake, say we'd managed to sign Gary Gardiner on a permanent deal. I bet he'd have cost well into 7 figures, on over £10k a week. We were relegated at the end of that particular season, imagine having to try and move him on, or pay his wages in league 1. As I say, I'm not saying don't spend the money, but at least be measured with it and get the right player.

 

I agree with you mate, but how long can we wait for the L1 players to "get up to speed". They all aren't plug and play for the Championship due to the fact that we only look at youth players (in this country)

 

People get hung up on championship players whilst ignoring that teams around us have signed amazing players from league one and two. We should be focusing on league 1 financial instability, picking up any player we can for a good price, Cdm, Striker, LB, backup RB. All needed