10pm Curfew

Significant drop in the number of 'cold wards' (ie wards with no covid restrictions) in Leeds. LGI has staffing issues with at least one ward with only 2 full time nurses for 24 patients (until they moved some over). They're also starting to see a steeper rise in the number of Covid patients.

 

Funny how the governments have trampled over peoples *actual rights* (economic and civil ones) for years and folk like you didn't bat an eyelid. Now this happens and your knickers suddenly get twisted.

 

Yes, all 17 to 24 year olds.

 

Remind me again what rights I have had trampled over in the last few years....

 

employment rights for a start

 

The need for a proper track and trace system is the one thing that scientists can seem to reach an agreement on.

The way Govt have gone about implementing this in the UK is the single reason we are in this mess again. Unfortunately it won’t get any better under this UKIP government

 

It appears that the 3%/4% figure is misrepresenting the data. The PHE data is taken from 772 Acute Respiratory Infections (ARI) outbreaks in w/e 20th September, and 532 of which were COVID. These are 2+ cases from one location or where an outbreak is suspected. In the w/e 20th September, over 26000 new cases were reported in England. This suggests that the 3% figure quoted in the papers was taken from a sample of around 1-2% of the total new cases in that week.

https://fullfact.org/health/its-wro...-19-cases-are-caused-by-restaurants-and-pubs/

Between 10th August and 24th September, the most commonly recorded activity was "Eating Out" with 14.6% of people testing positive. Second highest was shopping at 13.4%.

Many sources are suggesting that EOTHO may have been the start of a resurgence of COVID cases in most areas of the UK - with all areas (except the South West) seeing large uptake in the offer seeing a corresponding increase in infections towards late August. Even ConservativeHome are criticising it.

https://www.conservativehome.com/th...have-boosted-the-resurgence-of-the-virus.html

https://theconversation.com/eat-out...iven-uk-coronavirus-spike-new-findings-145945

I'm sure that everyone involved with the hospitality industry has been working hard to make things safe for customers. I'm absolutely, 100% sympathetic with the concerns about money, income and bills that the sector is facing. I'm also absolutely certain that it is the choice of the government to impose restrictions affecting this sector without supporting these viable businesses to continue in their hour of need. In terms of government expenditure, it would cost next to nothing to mothball pubs for as long as was thought to be necessary and pay the wages of all those affected (same with arts and other affected sectors) so that when the country is ready to open up again there is sufficient supply to meet the increase in demand.

Otherwise, the recovery from COVID will always be slower than it could be.

 

This has been obvious for months, but only got announced today.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-passport-trialled-flights-Heathrow-week.html

Trust the Microsoft fella who's got no medical qualifications but will become very rich from the rushed vaccines by taking it or forget ever travelling on a plane ever again as you won't have a covid passport.

 

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I generally do ignore flawed data.

The fact checking organisation Full Fact has dismissed the 3% hospitality figure as a misreading of data. They even went on to say that between 10 August and 24 September, the most common infection event recorded was eating out, reported by 14.6% of people who tested positive, followed by shopping, reported by 13.4%.

https://fullfact.org/health/its-wro...-19-cases-are-caused-by-restaurants-and-pubs/

As for EOTHO, Boris himself was doing the rounds on Sunday admitting it could have been a driver of infections. There's an Oxford University study which reckons it has.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/04/bori...-out-could-have-helped-spread-covid-13370357/

 

The weird Bill Gates conspiracy ******** really does you no favours. It taints you with a hint of Piers Corbyn/David Icke lunacy and undermines any credible points you have.

The bloke has more money than he could spend if he lives to be a 1,000 years old even after giving away billions. He's not in this to get rich, he's already richer than he could ever need to be.

 

I'm not losing my way at all, you patronising ****. You quoted Sunak, so I quoted Boris. Sunak is obviously going to defend his own scheme, so it was lame of you to use it.
You obviously didn't bother to read it all. I'll repeat it again then. "Between 10 August and 24 September, the most common infection event recorded was eating out, reported by 14.6% of people who tested positive, followed by shopping, reported by 13.4%."

 

So 85.4% of infections were in settings other than hospitality?

 

That's not actually what it says. 85.4% of people surveyed who tested positive for Covid-19 infection did not report they had eaten out. 14.6% reported that they did eat out, but many of those also reported they were in attendance at other so called infection events. It's not a case of 14.6% of people were infected while eating out, it's that only 14.6% did eat out, but they may have been infected elsewhere. This is not a report of where people were infected, but a report of what people who were infected had done and where they'd been. A maximum of 14.6% of those infected could have contracted the virus while eating out, but in reality it would be a fraction of that.

 

Your right to a correctly funded Healthcare system.