Deep thinking required. The Big Bang theory is ********

There are many people who believe that the world was formed at the moment of Creation, by a God who created everything.
Question ... where did God come from?
The big bang theory asserts that a moment of singularity caused the universe to begin, from a super explosion that created all matter.
Question ... what caused this "moment" and what was there before it? It is said that gasses and goodness knows what caused the big bang, if so where did these gasses etc come from to create matter?
I ponder on these things quite often but never get an answer, but the top scientists seem to believe that the big bang was the start of everything, so much so that we are now expected to believe them in the way that people down the ages have been made to believe that "God" created everything.

 

The tv show is a load of b*ll*cks too.

 

My second favourite american comedy series after Cheers. Plenty others to chose from though

 

Not the greatest sitcom ever made, but I have seen plenty worse.

 

There are 2 alternatives - either there was nothing and the universe was somehow created, or the universe has always existed. I find them equally improbable and difficult to comprehend.

I think I might have nicked this from somewhere but can't remember where

 

Scientists don't claim to know what came before, there are many theories, but no scientist worth his salt claims to know. However, our current understanding and knowledge can trace our universe's inception back to a big bang. Knowing what caused that big bang and knowing that there was a big bang are two entirely different lines of reasoning. Not knowing what caused it is not an argument against it happening.

A man of religion will tell you God created the universe. A man of Science will tell you the start of the universe was a big bang, but not what caused that big bang. A man of religion and science will tell you God started that big bang. And that, with our current understanding, is no less a valid theory than anything else, even if many of us are uncomfortable with it.

 

God, in all of its manifestations is man made.

 

This thread just reminded me of the short story The Last Question by Isaac Asimov. It's a great read and pretty short, all here - https://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

 

The simulation hypothesis intrigues me, is it possible?? How would we know?

 

I think the last few years are good evidence for this. Whoever is running it has clearly got bored and decided to crank up the mentalness, like when I used to get bored with Sim City and summon aliens or a massive fire.

 

Human science can't explain it yet, but the Big Bang theory is as close as we've come. Of course it may be wrong, it highly likely is, but Science will most likely get there in the end.

 

Agree RS, but which god, on our miniscule planet I believe the top 15 gods are worshipped by the 15 most popular religions ( no surprise their) people believe/ have faith, good on them, me personally think its a load of crap, I suppose it helps them come to terms with losing loved ones and believing they will see them again ( I wish i believed that) early religious buildings were simply called houses " if you join my gang, sorry house you will go to heaven/ paradise/ 72 virgins/ but please contribute some of your silver when entering my house to go there

 

My Theory is if you nicked it from somewhere it will have been by word of mouth. But then again, some one else may have the theory by media. God only knows.
Intrigued. when you recollect, ? .Please confirm.

 

Poor tv show, but the blonde aspiring actress was unbelievably hot.

 

I'm certainly no astro physicist but it always amazes me some of the ****** talked on some of these programmes where the geniuses try to explain the wonders of time,space and the universe to 'plebs' like me. Now I know much of the theory is way beyond my understanding and I therefore should not 'poo-poo' things I don't understand but.... to me there are 4 dimensions required for matter to exist (cue the Twilight zone theme tune).... physical shape length height width... albeit they are interchangeable in space but also time. If something does not exist in time how can it exist at all. It is proven time is relative to mass. Einsteins theory has been proven that velocity, time and mass are related. That for me blows out of the water the theory that absolutely nothing existed before the big bang. And dont get me started on anti-matter and the 'God' particle.
My biggest 'poo-poo' is aimed at a programme where, unless I am mistake Brain Cox explained how time travel was "theoretically possible". Now the light you see from from a distant star is thousands of years 'old' but if you accelerate towards it faster than the speed of light you will see the light rather like fast forward on a recording until you reach the distant object. That is not time travel as you are only seeing what has already happened. It is just that the delay in seeing it that is reducing. I know the added elements of 'event horizons', 'black holes', 'time dilations' and 'distortions' were included in his 'explanation' but that was long after I had reached the 'wibble' stage

To me, a 'bear of very little brain', time is, and will always be, 'linear' in everything except science fiction where it, admittedly can be used as a tool to make a ripping yarn. It is pointless to speculate. In any case, no one can really say, even if it was, what would happen to the universe in a 'paradox' situation.

 

There are many theories, one which says that the singularity was the result of the collapse of a previous universe, another which says that before the singularity began to expand, time itself didn't actually exist. Either way, it's not really knowable.

God might be involved but looking at the world today, He buggered off sharpish....

 

Watching a programme last night about the Hubble telescope and it absolutely blows your mind.
Once they had got it running perfectly the scientists had it concentrate on one minute so-called empty area of space and take pictures of it over a period of ten days.
The end result was astonishing. There were thousands of galaxies stretching to infinity in this one picture. One can only imagine the scale of this, or maybe not, across the whole universe. We will never be able to see our own galaxy from the outside, and our own solar system is so vast that it takes years to travel to the planets. I cannot get my head around these distances.
I think the Hubble photograph was called Deep Field, or something similar.
Flip me, that's deep !

 

All scientific theories are essentially "correct" until the point at which some new evidence proves them to be "wrong". Before Einstein, they thought that Physics was done and dusted with just a few things like the orbit of Mercury to be explained. Since science began, almost every theory has been proved "wrong", however, Newton's theory of gravity although ultimately "wrong" can still be used to accurately predict the positions of all the planets in the solar system (except Mercury) and even the orbits of millions of asteroids and comets. In the end all theories are approximations, some better than others. Relativity is still the best theory of gravity but it will probably be found wanting eventually.

 

I agree it's an interesting idea but as far as I can see it doesn't actually solve the problem posed in the OP. It's just a different way of kicking the can down the road.