Police were in the Market Kitchen last night

Asking disabled people to prove they have a disability sounds like a disgusting policy to me. I can't begin to imagine the mental health problems it would cause in some people.

 

Not to my eyes as it seems fairly consistent regardless of all the changes to restrictions and talk of infections rising out of control.
But that is government policy, cases go down restrictions worked. They go up, it's the public's fault. Seems to have worked a treat on some people

 

Let me be clear about this, I ABSOLUTELY refute the implication that I’m demonising anyone in any of my posts today or any other day.
Furthermore as someone whose father fought against fascism in the Second World War I find your ‘connotations’ reference abhorrent, disgusting and completely uncalled for. I would ask that you withdraw them forthwith

 

Don't waste your time on him - he's happy to expose his own Gran to it.

 

cant refuse service due to a medicalexemption. (Barri g usual caveates ie pissed as a rat under age danger to themselves )
But what about a dander to others?

 

The same form should be signed by anyone with a known medical condition and anyone over the age of 70 before they're allowed to leave their home right?

 

Yeah but the following would seem to contradict that

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2009/10/27/Pub-licensee-s-right-to-reject-custom

In any case it’s all a bit superfluous because unfortunately we will be in tier 3in a jiffy with all the pain and hardship that it will bring to our community.
Any chance of fans returning to Oakwell seems to be further away than ever

 

The thing you seem to be missing through all this is that yes a landlord can refuse to serve anyone they want for any reason as long as it isn't discrimination BUT as soon as someone lodges a complaint against that landlord they have to defend themselves and show that it wasn't discrimination. How do you do that when it was?

You have two identical twins walk into your bar seperately. One has a mask and one doesn't because he has an hidden disability making him exempt. You serve one and kick the other out. He makes a complaint that it was due to discrimination. How do you defend yourself that it WASNT discrimination in a court of law? All the evidence says that the reason you allowed one but not the other was the mask. How do you defend yourself that it wasn't the reason? You can't just say 'it wasn't your honour, honest' and expect them to believe you. How do you convince them?

 

Loko, this will be the 14th post I will have made on this thread which must be a record for me and I have not said that people not wearing a mask for medical reasons should be refused service on any of the preceding 13, indeed to have done so would have aligned me with our mutual friend @SuperTyke which I’m certainly not. What I have said is that a few selfish people are spoiling it for those who are entitled to go without mask. I have also suggested a way that landlords at their discretion (ie with those they suspect of abusing the law) could legally refuse to serve someone
I have also stated that I suspect that most people with a legitimate reason to be without a mask would not object to proving it, although this is a bit subjective.

 

COVID-19 is truly an enigma. No-one wants to admit it's a problem in their setting. It must just materialise all of a sudden out of nowhere.

 

I like it, 10 out 10 for inventiveness. Totally ridiculous of course but what the hell. Firstly as Landlord I would only refuse to serve maskless if I thought he was abusing the law, but I would not be obliged to say why as would be my right. I am no legal eagle but in so far as I understand it, it is then up to the prosecution to prove discrimination. The fact that I had served his masked brother would not in itself prove anything. If necessary I could ask another maskless customer who W as served to testify such on my behalf. I would state that it was my right to refuse anyone under common law. If I had made the mistake of stating why I refused service then I agree would be open to prosecution
So as to not open myself upto further accusations l stress that the refusal would only have occurred if I believed the maskless twin to be abusing the law.

 

You really are a total '****' Don't reply you are on ignore. Waste of time debating with a ****** like you.

 

Did you never watch Emmerdale when it was just Emmerdale Farm? Its why the Woolpack hardly had any customers, because Amos had barred 90% of the village.
Seriously though l would still contend that a landlord can refuse to serve without offering a reason. I believe shops are also thus entitled. I know some years ago Tesco displayed a sign stating that they reserved the right to refuse to serve someone without giving a reason ( or words to that effect). In so far as l know it is still up

 

We sent home a full class the other day when it's normally only the students sat nearby. I wonder if the DofE or PHE advice has now become stricter with infection rates rising? We're not told anything other than there has been a case so it's just my own guess.

 

since I’ve got back home had another message a teacher In Year 2 had also tested positive so they’ve sent the whole of year 2 home as well

 

I don’t understand why someone with underlying medical condition would be inside with strangers during a global pandemic. If you’re too ill to wear a piece of cloth on your mush probably best to give the pub a miss in my opinion.