Uk government: "we can't get them to move into the care homes"

I can,t understand why apparently we are seeing more cases than we,ve ever seen in the uk, yet Boris has stated today that the R number is still between 1 and 1.5 when in march it was above 3...

 

This in spades

 

Ok literally no, figuratively yes. You could go out but it was for exercise and essential shopping. I remember feeling very apprehensive driving to my office to restart the sever. The security guard quized me before letting me on hte estate. This was all before Dom-gate of course.

 

so it’s a no then.

 

So short of actually putting people in their homes and locking the door everything else is fine. I think what happened is actually not too dissimilar to being on parole with a tag, although you may have more social mobility with a tag.

 

Quite the charmer aren't we

 

Don't bother mate, why would you want to talk to someone like that? I know you're not nearly as rude as me so won't say it, but I'm a human being, I know you're thinking it.

 

I thought it was a little short but never mind. If that’s the level of the counter argument then it’s not particularly persuasive.

 

Do you honestly want me to believe that you don’t know that the fat privileged parasite is a despicable liar?

 

To be fair it’s pretty remarkable that the person who posted the biggest and most dangerous piece of misinformation this board has ever seen is picking someone up on semantics.

 

My dad fought in North Africa as well. I don't know whether he went willingly because he isn't here to ask. I do know that he had no choice - the government made him, and everybody else. I wouldn't call it oppression though, more a call to help the country beat a common enemy that threatened the lives of the people. He didn't talk about it much until his later years but I got the impression it was a lot worse than what we are having to go through now.

 

The oppression was what he was fighting against. He was fighting for freedom, as your father was too. He was fighting for a nation that didn't control their citizens against a nation that did. Our government now wants to control us. They won't allow us to use our intelligence and our compassion, they want to lock us down and control us. I am not subscribing to that. And I will not align myself with anyone who calls on our government to control us. Anyone who wants that is against everything I believe in.

 

The only time restriction on exercise was once per day but no length of time for said exercise was stipulated, unless you can prove different.

 

He was fighting for all those things but he was made to do it by the government of the day.
Governments control our lives every day in many ways but, and this is the bit our ancestors were fighting to retain, we also can control those governments every 4/5 years.

 

I don't want to disagree with any of that because it's very profound and wonderfully articulated and basically just right.

But I do want to make one point: If there'd been conscription for either of the gulf wars or the war in Afghanistan, the "war on terror", I would have resisted my call up. I didn't believe in anything they told me, I thought they were just making it worse. If I'd been called up to fight the Nazis, I would have been terrified, but I would have done it. I would have been rubbish, but I would have done it. My Granddad died when I was 21 I think. I didn't talk to him nearly enough and I regret that now, but I was an even bigger ars*hole when I was a kid and no one could tell me anything. But I did talk to him a bit. I lived with him and I worked with him. He was affected much more by the war than he ever told anyone. And, like the rest of that generation, he tended not to talk about it unless you almost physically ripped it out of him. He talked about fear once to me, he talked about quite a number of things, but he never said that he was made to do something that he didn't believe in.

I don't believe in this ****.

 

Who was monitoring how many times you went out, the Thought Police?

 

What?!!!!!!!

 

There's some utter extreme libertarian twaddle being talked on here. People who, at all costs, insist on the right of the individual to do what they want rather than make sacrifices for the common good.
Locked in your homes? For god's sake. Talk about picking another country to move to! I'd suggest moving to America and voting for Trump.

 

I must've been off school when they taught us about society pissing and moaning about their liberties being stripped during the blitz...

My grandad didn't fight in the war for that either.