Fair point, but I wonder if Preston City Council's interpretation is the same as that previously presented to the Licensing Justices? (When they existed!)
38yrs ago we looked at a pub at horbury that had a supper license until 1am. On speaking to the landlord i asked him what that meant. Basically if you came into his pub and had a substantial meal you could have a pint. On the bar was a cabinet pie warmer, in his opinion a warm pie or pasty was a substantial meal to some people. I AGREE
f**k we had 150 pages once and now you tell us Darfield138 is god! and he’s also a bit boring! What a time to be alive....
Some government bod said the other day a Cornish pasty is classed as s substantial meal...he may have changed his mind by now
Pubs who serve food have to register and apply for a food licence, so that status should have been sufficient.
Beer now counts - even wet pubs should be registered with environmental health as a food business. As with most of these things, it differs from local authority to local authority, and depends on how many people they've got to enforce it.
Before the licensing act changed in 2005, I used to go to a pub in York which opened until 2. When it turned 11 the staff would come out and move two sets of tables and chairs off the 'dance floor', at which point it became a club and could legally serve pints of John Smith's Magnet for another three hours.
Very harsh on Darfield 138. Succinct summary of potentially relevant statutory precedent and a good dollop of common sense. The law is seldom a barrel of laughs. Beer and sandwiches at best if you are lucky.
Isnt it what a man on a Clapham Omnibus would consider to be a substantial meal? I think that obviously depends on how far the bus is travelling. So as we thought - very difficult to define!
Timmis v Millman. The respondents Millman and Yarnold had been discovered in a hotel bar at 11.30pm consuming light ale and stout outside of permitted hours (but within the supper hour extension of the time). Justices found the sandwiches the pair were eating ‘were so substantial, and assisted by the pickles and beetroot so as to justify that it was a table meal and not a mere snack from the bar’. Timmis followed the 1955 case of Solomon v Green where sandwiches and sausages on sticks were found to constitute a meal.
When ar war a lad, as boggy used to seh, we used t'go darn Wombwell woods behind Skip and Raksha's harse and cook sausages and twirly bread t'over campfire. That war a substantial meal in them days. Course we went on camp some weekends darn Healey Wood and I used to trample all over Clarkie's peas and stew when a got smoke in mi eyes. Happy days
Substantial Meal means a meal similar in standard to that provided by domestic airlines to inflight passengers travelling interstate economy class. Think I’ll drink at home.