Whitty and Vallance

comedy genius tbf

 

I trust SAGE more than you tbh.

 

He's probably down the local Tesco now, infecting people.

Before going to his Gran's to finish her off.

 

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/30/bori...ockdown-restrictions-from-next-week-13511064/

So we are going to have another Mickey Mouse lockdown like the first was.

 

Not being funny but this is a false equivalence. Whitty presented "daily cases reported" and employed a representation based on a 7-day doubling rate. Ignore absolute numbers (as reported by the ONS), that was the trend being projected. If it started from the ONS base it would have been over 100,000 by 13/10.

 

Almost as if the restrictions destroying people's lives are a waste of time and you can't actually control the spread of a virus.....almost

 

Didnt you once suggest that 300 children a day were going to die if schools were reopened?

 

I seem to remember at the same time they projected 200 Covid deaths per day by November. Some would say that's the more important metric.

 

I honestly couldnt tell you.

None of it fits in with the Boris of pre March this year.

I dont buy any of this great reset ******** although they are doing the best to prove me wrong. I just get the impression that not only is Boris utterly out of his depth in terms of ability he has lost any backbone or credability he had.

He got scared in March which lead to the first lockdown alongside Sage being driven by risk adverse and disaster specialists plus issues around his health have ended up with him being stuck in a hole and rather than climb out of it keep digging.

Theres very little leadership, its almost always a suggestion lifted from another Country and shoehorned into how England suddenly does things.

I wouldnt be surprised if figurehead aside Boris has involvement in anything other than 'signing off' and press conferences. Id be even more surprised if he was eating Christmas Lunch at No10.

I dont even think Cummings has the influence he once had.

The main driver for me is Handcock. He at times seems like a man possessed and very adapt at avoiding answering questions about anything. I suspect a lot of the 'public health' laws originated from his office.

He seems to thrive off the authority and power he has currently yet doesnt know how to handle it and is just as far out of his depth as Boris.

The problem is, once you get that power its very difficult to relinquish it.

And no one is going to. At leaat not without a fight.

 

And it's a metric that we have no idea about because they don't tell us how many have died due to covid. They tell us how many people have died of ANY reason within 28 days of testing positive - symptomatic or asymptomatic - but that is a very very different thing to how many have died due to it.

As much effort as it would be I think they now need to do autopsies on everybody who dies within those 28 days so that they have some idea what they're actually dealing with instead of spouting deliberately vague and misleading figures on BBC every day and employing scare tactics to control the population and kill off the poor.

 

Who are the Covid deniers in the thread please, can you name them and point the posts out? Thanks.

 

Whitt was doubling up the positive test numbers, as you well know, not the ONS estimates. So even two weeks after the infamous 50k deadline, he’s more than 100% out with his numbers.

If I forecast that badly at work I’d be fired, and my company would be bankrupt.

If Whitty and Ferguson could predict what day it is tomorrow, I’d be surprised.

 

The ONS is made up of statistical modellers, many of whom are recognised experts in their field. I attended s conference with some of them a few years ago. As you have disputed what they say, after all everything is up for debate, would you share with us your academic and professional qualifications in statiscal modelling that gives you credibility in this field? TBF I would also accept a recognised qualification in epidemiology as a trump card

 

I didn’t click onto that to be honest, but you are right on that. From what I’ve heard anecdotally though, we’re pretty much maxing out testing capacity (ie, people unable to get tests or being told they can’t apply for one) so realistically the actual cases is unlikely to ever go much higher than we have now unless we get more testing.

Ps, it wasn’t a forecast or a prediction, it was a scenario

 

No. I repeated something I’d heard from a usually reliable source. The numbers of deaths they had said would reach 2000 a day. They got the age demographic completely wrong.The got the amounts right. Schools weren’t mentioned.

I get you are Covididiot but if you say I’m not going to deny something. Don’t start your next sentence by denying something.

 

They say that but drive past the testing site at meadowhall and most days it's empty

 

I prefer Rosemary and Thyme.

 

Give those working from home more time with their children.

 

I don’t know if it’s still the case but that’s because the labs were unable to process more tests so tests weren’t made available. They’ve done the right thing by setting up lots of centres but then they all look empty because they are given hardly any tests to carry out each. We now have a capacity to make lots of tests, we have a capacity to carry out lots of tests but we don’t have a capacity to process the tests which renders the first two things pointless.