Compulsory vaccinations

Soon, if you say you're English you get arrested and you'll be just thrown in jail.

 

Compulsory sterilization too. I don't think women should be allowed to work unless they undergo that. They'll jus be off having babies and taking maternity leave.

 

I m not saying it should be compulsory, but if you dont have it and it means you can't enter certain countries, then it's no different to what is already in place for other diseases.

 

Perhaps what you were saying the other night re state imposition of the vaccine may come true (albeit I still don’t think they can do it in the context of work). everyone at my wife’s work has refused it today.

the article above re Denmark is very worrying.

 

Maybe, if you don't think it should be compulsory, it's not a good idea to make out it's OK. That it's just something we have to deal with. It isn't OK. Look up Yellow Fever and what it does and then look up Covid. Can we please stop making out that any of this is even remotely close to OK.

 

Want to go to the football? You'll need to have had the vaccine.
Meadowhall? Vaccine
Mix with other households? Vaccine

Not compulsory but you may as well be dead without it

 

They've refused it now mate. Wait until post Brexit and the laws that protect us are simply wiped away. They'll have it administered or they won't work. And no one gives a fc*k. It's hope. It's what we want

 

If the vaccination is safe why not? Lots of people catch measles,, mumps etc and aren't terribly ill with it but some are , hence the need for a vaccination.

 

If I want to travel to a country that requires me to have a vaccination to protect me against the local swamp fever then its entirely MY choice to undertake the innoculation.

What that submission is suggesting is ******* off any rights you have and sticking a substance that has little or no testing and screening for side effects into you.

With next to no guarentee it will work. And if it does cause side effects that are life changing no recompense.

The 'Flu vaccine has between a 40 and 60 percent succes rate depending on strain.

With 70 years of research behind it.

 

The vaccine for mumps and measles was tested over years and years before it was administered to the general public. You have to do that to test the long term implications of injecting a toxin directly into your bloodstream. How can you possibly test the long term health implications of something that has only just been developed. Have you heard of thalidomide?

 

Well I'm happy to have a vaccination.

Of course I have. I'm assuming that you're not starting from scratch each time you develop a vaccine. I also think the courts would rule against any government that didnt compensate IF there were complications in the vaccine despite any waiver.

 

And just to add to my previous post, it took 5 fc*king years to identify the relationship between Thalidomide and the birth defects that were a result of it. It changed drugs forever. And now we forget all that and start making people have this vaccine after a few months. I want to fc*king scream.

 

Its actually insane that people can be so uptight about a disease that is much like other known respiratory illnesses and yet so blasé about the forced administration of unproven drugs.

 

You are absolutely right, vaccines aren’t developed as if from scratch, they obviously build on all the previous lessons learned safety wise. The long gaps previously weren’t about waiting 10 years for clinical trials to be completed, it was more the bureaucratic process and securing funding at each stage. Here they’ve got bottomless money and a system to make sure the assessment’s of safety and efficacy are top priority.

 

Well you say that, but if you read this, you might reconsider...

https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...ovid-19-vaccines#civil-liability-and-immunity

 

Anybody who doesn't have it is just plain stupid imho

You've got to stop listening to Donald Trump and the other conspiracy theorists and listen to our doctors mate.
Is it fk like other known respiratory diseases the ongoing health ramifications for one thing

 

Anybody who chooses not to have a proven safe vaccine with no side effects is just plain stupid. But we're a million miles away from being say that any vaccine is proven safe. I'm not an anti-vaxxer by any stretch but **** me please don't tar people who have reservations about a hurried vaccine with the "anti-vaxxer mentalist" brush because there's a world of difference.

 

really?

Sorry mate thought I'd cancelled that one ,it was me misunderstanding, thought they meant the mumps one

 

You're not a fan of that Q-Anon conspiracy too are you? Either paranoia has set in or you are surely being a WUM over this.
Personal and human rights are paramount admittedly but if we all want to live in a civilised society we have to all accept some rules we don't necessarily agree with for the good of society as a whole. We do not yet , in spite of some who think otherwise, live in anything approaching a dictatorship and are unlikely ever to do so.
I believe you were (hopefully?) using hyperbole to make a point but under what circumstances could you ever see compulsory sterilisation being forced on this or any population (other than an existing secretive totalitarian state like the DPRK).

 

I'm pretty sure he's being sarcastic to make a point, effectively showing you how ludicrous and unethical compulsory sterilisation and therefore also vaccination would be.

Here's one for you. If you were going to set up a new country and declare yourself a little independent state in the hills of Umbria somewhere, and the people in the newly declared Republic of Tekkytyke decided they wanted some sort of constitution, like a Magna Carta or the US Constitution that guaranteed them certain rights.

What do you think the First Law would be. I'd be surprised if it wasn't something to do with the freedom to decide what happens to your own body. Certain human rights are unalienable, that was the whole point of the Nuremberg Code after the Nazis violated those rights in people.