Hamilton.

Not a great fan of motor sport ( but watched a lot this season) . But incredible achievement. Unbelievable race strategy. Sports personality of the year a given.

 

Miserable place to live

 

I’ll take your word for it. Academic springs to mind. Put it on my miss list.

 

I think it might go to Rashford personally given the way that sport has been disrupted this year

 

Yep not a fan of the sport but he’s getting talked about as the best ever, equivalent of a player the likes of Pele being British, so for me he should be a shoe in for spoty

 

Disagree Helen. Not knocking. But that should be confined to Pride of Britain awards. Or a special award on the night.

 

Great musical though

 

Agreed, he must win SPOTY.

I’ve never really understood the crap that he gets, his achievements are incredible. One of the best sport stars this country has ever produced in my opinion.

 

Agree and he was good on Children in Need

 

Amazing work by Lin-Manuel.



In a seriousness though, phenomenal achievement by Lewis and the men that work on the F1 cars.

 

He's one of my favourite sportsmen ever. What he's achieved in F1 is unbelievable. The best there's been basically. Today's performance was something out of this world.

However, he shouldn't be SPOTY. That has to be Tyson Fury. My favourite sportsman of all time.

 

I thought that was Jacob Butterfield

 

Apart from him...

 

There is the argument that he does have the best car, but I honestly think he'd still win even if everyone drove an equal car. He just seems to be that good. He has an incredibly low retirement record, and he doesn't appear to make many errors, in the same way that Schumacher used to.

Outside of the sport as well, he's involved in a lot of charity work, and has helped mobilise the BLM movement.

He's a remarkable guy.

 

The tactics paid off today.

 

There is that but he’s consistently beaten his teammates. Look at Bottas today and throughout the season, barely laid a glove on him. I can only really remember Rosberg beating him and even then it took everything out of him and he had to walk away from the sport. Button was good competition though, I liked Jenson.

The best drivers seem to match up with the best cars but I agree, he’d certainly still be up there if everyone had equal cars.

You’re right, his work outside of F1 is impressive too. A true legend.

 

I think it’s because when younger he was seen as arrogant, it’s generally accepted now that he has improved on that, but think people still carry it over.
However it’s dressed up he’s had sustained success over a period of time.

 

He's a good driver but he's constantly had the best car and the full weight of the best team behind him which, as always with F1, makes it so hard to tell who is actually the best driver. But driving wise you can't claim anyone currently is better than him because it's never been tested equally so you just have to accept that the results don't lie and he is currently the best.

However as a person I really really dislike him.
He has talked about white privilege so many times whilst conveniently forgetting that regardless of skin colour he has benefited from privilege in a way that hardly anyone has done and that billions of people on the planet, black or white would give their right arm for.
In my opinion hes a very intelligent person who is always playing a game of self promotion on the team radio. He will cry that his tyres are finished and then do another 20 laps on them setting fastest laps. I believe he does that so that people think omg look how God he is doing this on knackered tyres. Other times I've heard him saying how hard the car is to drive whist coasting round considerably faster than anyone else and showing no signs of understeer or oversteer or anything then at the end everyone congratulates him. Omg Lewis you did so well in a car that's so bad.

He's a good driver but I just can't do with his whining, self promotion and sense of entitlement. It's a shame he never had to work for the top seat in F1 as I think he'd be a much better person if he had lie the current crop of youngsters are doing.

 

He won practically everything there was to win before getting to Formula One. There was a spare seat at McLaren when Montoya departed, and he got the seat over Pedro De La Rosa. He then outperformed two-time champ and teammate Alonso in his debut season, missing out on the title by a point. Before winning it the following season. He left McLaren to join the new Mercedes outfit who'd done little at that point, and has now won another six titles. The only driver to ever win a race in every season he's competed in. The most wins, most podiums, most points finishes, most points ever, most points in a season, most poles, most laps lead, most unique victories across all circuits. It goes on and on.

On top of that, he was the first black driver in F1. A pioneer then, as well as the most successful F1 driver there has been.

Genuinely no interest in debating anything beyond his racing. There are a couple of 'legendary' ex-Barnsley players I've met, and know very well, who folk on here idolise. They're uber-cùnts. Doesn't stop me from rating them as footballers.

 

Usually I'd agree but given the way the sporting calendar has been disrupted and stopped this year I think the personality part might come into it more. Great achievement by Hamilton and fair enough if he gets it