Fans to return after lockdown.

It all just seems populist and illogical and with a very narrow frame of reference. I'm sure there will have been little thought that anything besides a funeral or a wedding may actually occur at a church. Until someone points it out to them and rather than going, fair point, we need to tweak that, we missed it, they'll come up with something convoluted and just look bigger idiots than before.

I thought there had been work done with clubs to work out safe capacities given the individual characteristics of a give ground and its access points. but that seems long gone now.

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the country exits at tier 3 anyway and this issue is just swept aside for a while.

 

Barnsley's current rate per 100,000 people is 229.3 compared to the national average of 228.2. We are the highest in South Yorkshire with Rotherham 211.4, Doncaster 216.7 and Sheffield 191.8.

 

Yes.. only hysterical left wing views allowed on here.. If the country is on its t1ts with debt, they'll be no money for any NHS and **** all else besides

 

depends on the level and what your average crowd was/is

 

That’s got to be a wind up surely ? Let’s stop testing and bury our heads in the sand it will go away ‍♂️ Apologies if was meant as tongue in cheek

 

Yer an idiot

 

That's as may be, but we will see who is right in the fullness of time won't we?

I just hope you can look your kids in the eye (If you have any) when they're older when they're asking you how you could have been THAT gullible and obedient in the face of blatant corruption and ill intent.

 

Stick to burning 5G masts owd ****

 

You mean the "deep-state"
What role do you perform at BDGH?
You've been a bit ambiguous thus far.

 

I'm a nurse. I have seen first hand what COVID does, it is a horrible disease for the tiny minority who get a bad case of it, my whole argument is that the vast, vast majority of people eho contract it are totally fine (aside from feeling a bit ropey for a while). All these restrictions, lockdowns, guidelines, mass testing of anyone that coughs is ridiculous, unneccessary and I honestly believe that this is all just the beginning.

To put it in short-hand, the risk doesn't tally with the response, I just have a view on why this response is manifesting in the way that it is doing that a fair few on here do not appreciate.

At the end of the day, whether people think I'm an idiot or not is irrelevant to me, however I would like to point out that my views are geared towards every single person reading this message being able to live a life of freedom and happiness, I don't want to see people miserable, afraid or losing loved ones....

 

Ahhh, the old "I have no argument, so I will make a pointless jibe" response. Good work.

 

Your opinion is formed having seen much more of the negative effects of this pandemic than I have, and so I am not qualified to dismiss it.

However the majority of your peers and colleagues nationally don’t seem to agree with you. I don’t know what the concensus amongst dr’s/nurses is locally or what it is in whatever department you work in - but it does not appear that a majority of front line nhs health and care providers share your view.

 

Certainly not the ones I have spoken to.

In fact even those with the scantest knowledge of infection control (care home workers) are loudly in favour of the govt measures to control the spread.

 

I think it’s more about fans congregating outside grounds. I used to have to drive passed Old Trafford on a match day and it was carnage in the surrounding areas.

 

I'd already read it but mainly how it affects gyms.

Para 6 b 'gyms and the wider leisure sector will reopen'

Devil in the detail

Para 58 c 'in the very highest tier, indoor group exercise (including sports) will be restricted to people from the same household or bubble'

This means realistically, no exercise classes which is a change to the previous tier 3 restrictions.

In the greater scheme of things maybe not too important but I'd like to see the evidence for the change.

 

Where do you get the figures from please ?

I'm looking atn the BBC and they differ.

Thanks

 

Agreed.

 

You seem a pretty intelligent guy with for the most part a rational argument which I just disagree with.

With that in mind, how do you feel about being on the same ‘side’ of this debate as the deep state, flat earth, “the queen is a lizard” gang? Or the same side as Nigel Farage...

 

How long have you been a qualified nurse out of interest? I usually spend at least one shift a week working at our local general hospital and your view is absolutely not a typical one.