Which iPhone 12 question

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  1. Marc

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    have you considered the XR? couple of years old, but still a hell of a phone and you can pick the 64GB up for about £350 now
     
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    I didn't say 'just go android' the post I put said ' if you are willing to move away' I know many people including many I work with who simply will not move away due to them having all the Apple products. Was simply offering an alternative.

    Apple are great for security as you pointed out but are well behind the curve with other features that are readily available on android but it all comes down to personal preference I guess. But IMO having moved to Android a few years ago its overall far superior and much better value for money.
     
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    Never ever had any issues with security with android I can say the same for my family & friends also, is it a myth made up by Apple?
     
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    Not even close. I’ve seen myself how easy Android phones are to hack into or to install viruses onto. They’ve improved over the last few years, but still nowhere near as good as iOS.

    Ever wonder why there are thousands of Anti-Virus software on the Google Play Store, but none on the App Store?

    Say what you want about Apple, I really don’t care, but when it comes to security, there’s really only one choice. If that’s not important to you, that’s absolutely fair enough, for day-to-day use either option is likely fine, you just have to be far more vigilant on Android.

    I haven’t tested it recently but a few years ago I managed to get control of a device and all I had to do on that device was go to a website. Nothing else. Think how many times you open links that you might not know, or how many ads run that you’re not in control of.
     
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    My only experience of android devices is them getting throttled to death by google/manufacturers/networks all piggy backing their own software onto and then the device struggles to function down the line. Yes apple is overpriced but they never cause any major hassle ever. (In my experience after using both)
     
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    Mine never struggled to function.
     
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    Must have been unlucky with the Samsung /Sony devices I used in the past.
     
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    iOS is a closed system, whereas Android is open source - both have their advantages. I would indeed say that Apple is more secure, but you'll have to trust the company, and what they do "behind the curtains" isn't always so customer friendly. Wasn't it not long ago when they were caught "downgrading" their older phones so that people would buy their new models?

    I've never used an iPhone and don't have any experience with iOS, but I'd imagine that you still need to be careful with the apps that you use. I vaguely remember a huge iCloud hacking case from a couple of years that got a lot of publicity, because a lot of people's personal photos and other files got in wrong hands and were widely spread around the internet. I'm not 100% sure that it was about iCloud though, it could have been some other cloud service, so please correct me if I'm wrong. :)

    For an "ordinary user" (however you define that), I'd still say that Android phones are safe enough if you only have a bit of common sense. I also like the flexibility that open source gives (and the lower price!), and as far as I know, I've never had any security problems.

    EDIT: btw, I don't mean to "educate" you or sound patronising or anything - you clearly know your stuff, most likely much better than I do! :D
     
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    Apple is proprietary, but in my humble opinion that’s what makes it so damn good. The iOS SoCs routinely destroy Android flagship on benchmarks, which is largely down to the harmony between hardware and software. We’re now seeing the same on macOS, with the debut M1 already smoking intel and fast approaching Ryzen. Apple only need to worry about tuning their hardware to their software, and the pace they can develop is just way faster.
     
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    That was just a phishing scam.

    In March 2016, 36-year-old Ryan Collins of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, agreed to plead guilty to one count of unauthorized access to a protected computer to obtain information resulting in an 18-month sentence.[74] While no victims were named in the court documents, numerous media outlets connected Collins' case to The Fappening. During the investigation, it was found that Collins phished by sending e-mails to the victims that looked like they came from Apple or Google, warning the victims that their accounts might be compromised and asking for their account details. The victims would enter their passwords, and Collins gained access to their accounts, downloading e-mails and iCloud backups.[75] In October 2016, Collins was sentenced to 18 months in prison.[76][77]
     
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    That was the media spin on the story - and Apple had to apologise and fix phones it had 'slowed down'. However it had slowed them down to optimise battery capacity - rather than to encourage them to buy new phones.

    The theory being - slowing down the phones, stopped the battery dying at midday
     
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