Vaccine approved

What's mandatory got to do with it? You're talking about the "race to be first" for the vaccine. Like I said it shouldn't be a race. It should ready for release when fully tested and fully safe

 

Nivver

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730

 

And that's right surely?

 

Am I right in saying the states can approve it before federal approval? I saw somewhere that California have said it won't be available until it's been further tested, but maybe that's just they can impose restrictions on it further, rather than can approve it before the FDA say so.

Not seen anything that says the FDA have approved it though? Is the Monday vaccination unregulated?

 

Fair enough. Are they part of a trial group maybe?

 

My sentiments exactly FR. It just seems a race to be first, when nothing should be further from the truth

 

Seems there has been criticism from Fauci in the US and from the European Medicines Agency about the speed of this.

Van Tam stated this morning that they'd set out in March how to get the vaccine approved as swiftly as possible if safe, so if the lag between UK and rest of the world is minimal, it may just be that they got one single aspect of their management something like adequate and prioritised it over most else.

And he criticised in return the agencies who'd criticised the UKs swiftness.

I must admit, I do have concern about this vaccine, just because nobody has any idea of what long term effects it may have and how it reacts with other medications. I'm sure I'll have a vaccine in due course but I'm quite thankful I'm not close to the initial groups who are eligible.

Edit: I've just seen that the government have indemnified Pfizer from legal action. That doesn't inspire me with any confidence at all!

 

I think it's just a case of ministers taking any opportunity for a nationalist soundbite rather than any corners cut. Given the need to have a high take up of vaccines globally, it would've made more sense for regulators to work together though.

 

I wonder if anything is happening in January that they know will decimate our ability to import as a country, leading to them needing to urgently start before the new year??
Any ideas?

 

Great news but going to be a long old process rolling it out, imagine all those people who don't drive or are too ill to get to the nearest jabbing centre.

 

That makes sense.

What happens in...

 

They are saying the vaccine is safe (bad sign), but so are scientists (good sign). I'd trust the scientists more than the government tbh.

I did suggest testing it on MPs, Lords, and the Royal Family first, but there is a tiny risk that it will turn them into giant Kaiju who spend the rest of the day demolishing Central London....

 

Not necessarily. Vaccinating a 90-year old in a care home could prevent them from catching it. Vaccinating their 25-year old care worker could stop all the inhabitants of that care home from catching it.

 

This priority list is as follows:

1. residents in a care home for older adults and their carers
2. all those 80 years of age and over and frontline health and social care workers
3. all those 75 years of age and over
4. all those 70 years of age and over and clinically extremely vulnerable individuals
5. all those 65 years of age and over
6. all individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality
7. all those 60 years of age and over
8. all those 55 years of age and over
9. all those 50 years of age and over

I scrape in at No.9

 

Me too. Makes me feel positively young!