Compulsory vaccinations

I think it's on Amazon Prime, although I heard it has been edited down from the original to remove some scenes.

 

I would also add the references to the Nuremberg Convention alleged '" violation" that "evil" lockdowners are pushing for?? should the UK Govt make vaccination mandatory (which in any case they won't) and someone even compared it to Mengele's experimentation.
Two points.
I thought the Nuremberg code was about protection for people exploited against their will regarding medical experimentation. Surely if the relevant authorities have signed a treatment or drug off as 'safe' after clinical trial then it is no longer 'experimentation' when administered to the population at large (excluding the tin-foil hat brigade). All medical treatments and procedures carry risks, even ones that have been in existence for decades since it is impossible to test for every simgle combination of circumstances that might bring about a severe adverse reaction in a tiny number of cases. That is why there is a list of contra indications in the packaging of even the most common drugs like Aspirin, Ibuprofen etc.

Italy is considering making it a condition for certain occupations e.g. front line medical staff to have the vaccination. italy is a civilised country and society and I cannot see, as such they would consider doing so if it violated the convention. Some countries and jobs it is mandatory to be vaccinated aagainst certain disease, so once again, it suggest these claims of 'evil' breaches of the Code are nonsense. I have become increasingly concerned at the comments and reactions to all this by a small but vociferous section of this BB displaying behaviour almost paranoid at times and it does make me think I am in a parallel universe at times. Opinions are fine but when the become so extreme and distorted then it is time to call a halt.

 

Ooooh were the words "covid", "2020", and "plandemic"? Might tweet it and see if it ends up on here.

 

Haha I should have made it clear that I understand it was edited for violence, not to protect Bill Gates and his 5G towers...

 

What about the fact that it is not known whether it affects fertility? Not "tests have not shown any impact on fertility" but literally that they have no idea.

 

Fake news, was clearly edited by Big Tech and Big Media to cover up the rigged election and fake pandemic.

 

Honestly, I don’t think thinking suits you.

The examples you’ve given in Italy pertaining to specific occupations are not examples of mandatory vaccination, and therefore are not what’s being argued against.

It’s also, by the way, pretty funny that you look to Italy as an example of a ‘civilised’ country and implying it’s somewhere there could definitely never be any Fascist type policies approved. ‘Ah, it’s happened in Italy, so it’s bound to be kosher, if Benny Mussolini reckons it’s legit then who are we to argue?’. There’s more recent history of populism amongst the Nationalist and Right wing factions there than pretty much any other country in Europe!!!

 

Fake news. Won't happen. Rubbish.

 

What part of 'mandatory' do you not understand? Whether it is mandated for the entire population (with exceptions for medical conditions etc) or specifics but sizeable sectors of the population, it is EXACTLY what is being argued against.

Once again your judgement is being clouded by personal dislike of a particular poster ( in this case me) evidenced by going off topic (what has Mussolini got to do with anything- 70+years ago and not forgetting UK had its very own Oswald Mosley and his followers at the same time ). Yet again you resort to, not so subtle digs.

On that point, implying that Italy is any different from other countries regarding Nationalist and Right Wing factors you have even got that wrong! The proportion of support for the Right of centre parties in Italy is around 17% which is pretty average for the rest of Europe. There is lots of light but very little heat coming from Northern League/Salvini and Italy is governed by a Socio Democratic Party.

Pointless debating with you as you go off topic, make things personal (opening comment of your post) and make factually incorrect statements.. vis-a vis 'Nationalist Italy'.

 

I think it will. Take the Torygraph with a pinch of salt.

 

This petitition against the Pfizer vaccine raises concerns that it may result in infertility in women by preventing their bodies from being able to form a placenta during pregnancy. Obviously that won’t be a deterrent to the majority on here who are desperate for that jab but perhaps some of the female posters might want to consider whether they might like children in the future before they rush out to join the queue.

https://2020news.de/wp-content/uplo...FINAL_01DEC2020_EN_unsigned_with_Exhibits.pdf


“There is no indication whether antibodies against spike proteins of SARS viruses would also act like anti-Syncytin-1 antibodies,” says the petition. “However, if this were to be the case this would then also prevent the formation of a placenta which would result in vaccinated women essentially becoming infertile.”

The petitioner and co-petitioner, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg & Dr. Michael Yeadon, respectively, both stress they are acting in “good faith” to the petition’s intended recipient, the European Medicines Agency (EMA).

“… Many EU residents/citizens will suffer irreparable harm because once the EMA approves the COVID- 19 vaccine(s) in question, both governments of EU member states and employers in the EU are most likely going to recommend them for widespread use.”

 

https://aleteia.org/2020/12/01/priest-who-volunteered-for-covid-19-vaccine-trial-passes-away/

Could just be a coincidence he's took the vaccine and purely bad luck.

 

Yes, perhaps, but if it was as a result of taking the vaccine he can’t have any complaints because he took it of his own volition and must have known there were risks involved in guinea-pigging an experimental vaccine. Not that he can complain obviously, because it looks like he may have paid the ultimate price for his decision.

Choose the vaccine. Accept the risks. Take your chances.

Refuse the vaccine. Accept the risks. Take your chances.

As long as every person gets to make that choice for themselves it’s as simple as that.

 

Man who crossed street yesterday dies of heart attack today.

Dreamboy: it COULD just be a coincidence I guess, I mean maybe he was just really unlucky and had an heart attack after crossing a street but that's some bad luck right?



Automatically assuming that he died because of the vaccine just because he died after he's taken it is as bad as the whole "died within 28 days of testing positive for covid-19" ******** that the nation has been lapping up for months. Both are utterly pointless statements

 

Let's be clear here, there is no suggestion he died as a result of taking the vaccine. The headline for the piece is, as many are these days, very irresponsible.

The chances are his death has nothing to do with the vaccine at all. When new vaccines and drugs go into trial some people will get ill and some people will die who are in that trial but their illness/death has nothing to do with the trial they're in. The larger the number of people in the trial the more often that will happen.

The literature about the vaccine has a number of issues that will, legitimately, cause concern. There have been no tests on how the vaccine reacts with other medication. It is entirely unknown if it affects fertility. It is specifically stated it shouldn't be administered to pregnant women or those hoping to get pregnant. The side affects appear to affect a lot of people and while they could generally be considered to be mild, they sound unpleasant and there is no information on how long they last.

But this is a non story other than to the people who knew and cared about him.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-vaccine-card-given-patients-23124557

It's getting closer to happening. Be prepared to risk seeing long term affects of taking the vaccine down the line or living as a recluse banned from going places.

 

Don't be silly this is just a card to help the NHS remember who has had what so they don't get all confused and can remember 21 days later to give you your second dose that's all.

I can't wait till they invent computers that could do that job but I guess as it's the only option then for now we will just have to carry round this card which loks absolutely nothing like the card which people have been speculating for months we would get.

 

But so many things this year has started as "this is just" before moving to the next level. Just to flatten the curve, just a mask etc.

 

What has moved to the 'next level' after 'just a mask'?

It's still just a mask.

 

Hqrdtemplatecleanen v10.1 (publishing.service.gov.uk) 4.5 is interesting. 4.8 too.