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  1. tyk

    tyke69 Well-Known Member

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    tyke69, Dec 17, 2020
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    Owlstalk s worth a read . Talk of AFC Wednesday being formed and that's just for starters .
     
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    I can still hear ‘3 nil in your own back yard’ ringing around my ears and various songs about Sam Winnall.

    not got too much sympathy for them
     
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  5. arabian_ian

    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Not good enough. Should the club fail to address their obligations and default on payments to players and club employees plus anyone else owed money then the whole place should be shut down and assets and ground sold off to clear the debts.
    Club liquidised and owners facing court action.
    But it won’t happen.
     
    arabian_ian, Dec 17, 2020
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    Any other business would have been put into the receivers hands, I was in business for years and the banks, inland revenue, HM Customs and the like didn't give an inch when it came to money, they get theirs and The Devil take the hind most was the attitude thereafter.
    Nobody wants to see football clubs fold, but, some clubs have been taking the piss for far too long.
     
    Del Rosso, Dec 17, 2020
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    tyke69 Well-Known Member

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    They will pussyfoot around them as always as they are massive, efl/pfa will find a way to bail them out
     
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    They are well and truly scuppered now Chansiri has bagged the ground. Though it makes you wonder if any monies have actually been paid to the club. If they went into admin, there really aren't going to be many assets there to expunge any debt.

    I'm curious how much is owed to genuine creditors and how much he's poured in to get worse than nowhere.
     
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    Pity we've been unable to sing to them this season...

    Going down and your f**king skint etc etc
     
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    What I’ve always found tacky is the owners name written in seats on one of the stands.
    I’d expect it from the arch narcissist Trumpy but from few others.
     
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    Are they skint though? January will come and Pulis will sign a few players and they'll get away. It's what they do.
     
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    You’d have to be quite desperate as a player to sign for a club with a history of not paying players.
    My opinion is they are far too far gone to survive in this league.
    R.I.P. Sheffield Wednesday.
     
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    I thought if they continue not to pay full wages and fail to file accounts, a transfer embargo will again be brought in.
     
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    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Again be brought in? FFS how many chances do scum businesses get to shaft people?
    I have limited knowledge of exactly what is going on at Hillsborough but similar happened at Ibrox and Dens and both scum clubs shafted local businesses and were both allowed to carry on while innocent businesses were left to pick up the pieces.
     
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    You’ve bought into Barnsley Ian, local rivalry and all. I bet you were a hanging judge when Rangers agent to the wall. Not that I’m defending the piggies mind.
     
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    Wednesday have been in massive debt for a very long time, even back to the late 90s when they owed the co-op around £23m that wanted calling in but somehow they had constant stays of execution. yet they paid Carbone a huge signing on fee and £40k a week wages.

    Until Chansiri either runs out of money, or patience, as long as they keep settling the wages fully and creditors are paid eventually, he can keep going pretty much.

    It feels like a house of cards and as the fans are now finally turning, it makes you wonder how much longer he'll persist. The thing for their fans, if he busts the club they'll have debts and no assets, so even if they have something of a name and good catchment, they won't have a home and a new owner is either going to be reliant on Chansiri writing debt off, or having to put in tens of millions just to get it to the point of solvency.
     
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    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Of course you are correct over Sevco but my own club have a crap team on the park because we followed rules and paid our debts while others default and prosper.
    So yes I do have an axe to grind.
     
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    The only appropriate type of debt.
     
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    The ground was a paperwork exercise to write off debt maybe, im seriously doubting any money got to the clubs coffers?
     
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    You're not wrong DR. My mate was the Secretary of our local Working Men's Club. The Steward ran off
    with a woman and a weeks income from the bar which he was due to hand over a couple of days later.
    It was reported to the Police and suddenly the place was crawling with stocktakers, CID officers and HM
    Customs and Excise officers.

    I was at the Club the day the latter called and went into the office as a witness for my mate.
    They had gone through seven years of invoices and found under declared VAT discrepancies of around £2k and
    demanded a cheque there and then as payment.

    One of them became fixated with a padlocked cupboard in the corner of the room. My mate assured him that all
    that was in there was an electronic raffle machine, some microphones and unused bingo books. He demanded
    the key. He was told that the only person with a key was the Treasurer who would be in the Club later after his
    shift at the pit. He said to his mate, he had something in his car he could open the cupboard with and he left
    the room to fetch "it."

    He returned with what appeared to be a firemans axe and proceeded to wildly hack the tongue and grooved
    door off its frame. As my mate had said, he looked inside and saw the raffle machine, mics and bingo books.
    My mate asked if he would pay for the damage and he replied that as "we" had attempted to prevent him from
    carrying out his duties viz: collecting tax, it would be the Club's responsibility to make good the damage he
    had caused.
     
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