Sounds like a Brexit deal has been agreed

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  1. orsenkaht

    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    If he opposes it then Boris hounds him from now until 2024 with the rallying cry: "This is the man who wants to reverse brexit!". No mileage in that for SKS - remember that if they had agreed for only one to run, Barnsley Central would have gone Tory/Brexit Party. And it's been bad enough for Labour to lose two elections over brexit without adding a third.
     
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    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    You've got to laugh. Dover is as quiet as Pogmoor Road this morning!
     
  3. BarnsleyReds

    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    Not just that though, the vote takes place on Wednesday, one day before the end of the transition period. What does opposing it do at that point? It just causes no deal.

    We all know it’s a **** deal, but it’s the only one on the table and it’s a damn sight better than no deal.
     
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    Bless him...he must have felt so out of place....perhaps that's why he never turned up .
     
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    The one which the prime minister of the time stopped the police from investigating? The non legally binding one? The campaign full of lies? Ah, that one? Remember that when we vote to go back in (with worse terms mind).
     
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    People talk about fishing rights like its our government who owns them all, not true, Many are privately owned, there is the reason why it's important for the Tories to protect them!
     
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    no idea to be honest, but i cant see why they wouldnt
     
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    just out of interest,what percentage of the eu's economy is the fish caught in our waters?, i've no idea but you seem to be very knowledgeable of all things concerning the eu.

    also why cant our own fishermen catch these fish that no englishman wants then export them to the eu,?
     
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    But we can't fish the quota we already have, we flog it to other countries outside the EU mate. I really can't see our fishing industry getting back to where it was immediately post-war. The fish in our seas are not eaten by the British, we sell it all to Europe. There's little or no cod left in the North Sea, we have to fish off Iceland for cod. Maybe the EU is to blame for that - I've never argued that it's perfect, put the reality now is that we argued the toss over fish for pennies but have screwed ourselves in financial services for billions.
     
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    We live in a democracy, so their views don’t count. Or something like that.
     
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    It wasn't legally binding but people had the chance to vote in or out outside lost. They couldn't have then said right were not coming out of Europe anyway they would have been uproar. And a 2nd vote was quite a daft suggestion, best of 3 would have been more reasonable.
     
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    A second vote daft? Why?? This is obviously retreading very old ground, but the idea of a second, confirmatory referendum once we knew what the actual terms were seemed to me the epitome of common sense, but what do I know??

    An analogy:

    Do you want to move house?
    Yes!
    Great, we'll move!!

    Here's the house we're moving to.
    But it's awful, I don't want to live there....can I answer the first question again?
    No. You said you wanted to move, so off you go.
     
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    Sounds like 84 strike
     
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    This article from Der Spiegel doesn't sound as though there is too much to fear in the financial services sector.

    "European hopes that several thousand bankers from London would move to the Continent as a result of Brexit have thus far not materialized. Hubertus Väth from the initiative Frankfurt Main Finance and the financial hub's chief lobbyist believed that his city would be able to attract up to 10,000 industry professionals from London. Four years later, though, only 2,500 people have made the move, among them many Germans who took the opportunity to return home after spending several years abroad.

    It seems unlikely that many more will follow suit. That is partly due to the EU realization that financial deals aren't really workable without the British. In late September, the European Securities and Markets Authority (ESMA) ruled that British clearing houses could continue offering their services in mainland Europe until at least the middle of 2022. "A clear victory for the City," says Väth.

    Without clearing houses, banks and funds are unable to settle and process deals involving securities and derivatives. They jump in when a deal falls apart. To avoid chaos on the financial markets in times of trouble, they have to build up billions in reserves.

    But clearing houses, too, can run into trouble in times of financial crisis. They must then be propped up by the country in which they are located - and no European government is interested in having to throw aid their way should a crisis erupt. As such, it is hardly surprising that Europeans are content to continue relying on British clearing houses."
     
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    no you can't. ever heard of immigration laws?
     
  19. Mrs

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    The Queens own Kamikaze Scotsmen.
     
  20. Dan

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    I’m aware of 4,800 that have relocated so far. Der Spiegel seems quite anti EU from all the postings.
     

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