Is it better if Rotherham game is on or off?

No it doesn't happen. You are confusing a general subscription to a TV provider who chooses what shows they have on as and when they want with a paid for subscription to a specific series which stated in the advertising what was available.

 

Ok, I know you didn’t post this responding to me, but still:

Because they aren’t

They are

That’s about as daft an analogy I’ve seen - but if the contract you signed with the plumber stated that the shower was subject to the electricians approval you’d have as much a leg to stand on in that circumstance as you do here - but it wouldn’t. The contract you agreed to here had a very clear and completely unambiguous clause, which was in the t’s and c’s and not hidden whatsoever.

It isn’t indefensible, definitely not from a legal point of view but even from a moral point of view. Barnsley FCs offer to you (and me) was to give away codes for midweek games only, 100% based on what the EFL and the member clubs had arranged for the season. They made the offer based on the EFLs agreement to provide iFollow codes for the said midweek fixtures.

Do you / will you get yourself in as much of a tizz when the games are specified sky games and so also don’t get a code? The exclusion for that is in the same section of the t’s and c’s.

 

But that's a subscription to a channel, not a purchase of a single item (or box set in this case).

 

You’re right I misread what you posted.

I’m still hesitant to blame the club here. It’s far from ideal but I’m not sure what they can do. It’s not their platform, if there’s no process for them to purchase codes they’re unable to do so. It’s probably a legal issue where they’re unable to provide codes anyway due to broadcasting restrictions. I am as annoyed as anyone *With the EFL* but I think it’s unfair to use this as a stick to beat the club with when A) there’s almost certainly nothing they can do about it. B) it affects all clubs and C) it’s covered under the terms and conditions we signed when purchasing the ticket. All the advertising says subject to EFL approval, the only place it doesn’t is in the announcement that away midweek games would be covered, which is not advertising. In fact I’d be surprised if many bought their tickets after that date.

 

Ok. Sue them.

Good luck.

 

It's a sad situation where you would rather support the club screwing the fans than stand up for the fans. What the f is wrong with you?

 

How is the announcement on the club's official site saying this is what you get if you buy our product not advertising for that product?

 

We’ll beat em whenever it’s played

 

What is hard to understand for you here?

I’m not supporting the club screwing the fans - because the club aren’t screwing the fans. You believe they are, I really don’t. We aren’t being done over by Barnsley FC here. We really aren’t.

Send them an email informing them of your intention to seek legal recourse over it, see what they say...

What the f is wrong with you?

 

For some reason you have absolved Paul Conway and his mates of any responsibility for the last year or two. I find it bizarre how quick you are to defend every single thing they have done.

 

You ignored the entire rest of my post but ok. My point was that it’s not advertising material. It’s an EFL statement. One you have to search for to find.

All the Advertising material still says subject to EFL approval.

Let me just say again that I’m as annoyed as anyone with what the EFL has done. But you’re directing your anger to the wrong party. If they’re unable to offer the game due to broadcasting restrictions and if there’s no codes to give out, we can assume with relative certainty that iFollow doesn’t have a method for purchasing codes, judging by how inadequate that system is. Now I know there’s some assumptions there, but I think in the circumstances they’re fair assumptions to make. But if you can dispute them feel free. But given those assumptions I’m not sure what the club can do, beyond sending out a tenner, which again is not normal operation and would be a gesture not an obligation.

 

My personal view is that any organisation claiming a Tuesday is a weekend need their bumps felt.

I do think the company from who you purchase a service is ultimately responsible for that service though, not their supplier. They may be unable control the content of the service but they can control customer payments and reimbursements.

Not that I'm particularly holding BFC to task, my post was just to highlight how ridiculous it all is. At Christmas. When we're all locked in. And everything else is ****.

Give all season ticket holders the match for free, whoever can do that, there's nothing to lose and everything to gain from doing a U-Turn on this.

 

It wasn't an EFL statement. Its on a club article.
https://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/news/2020/august/streaminginfo/

The club is obviously (in general) able to access codes as it was the club's choice which games were included so it isn't automatic from the EFL. For example some clubs give codes to all season ticket holders for midweek away games, some chose not to give them to any and some like us chose to give them if you paid extra for that service.

And many clubs chose to do away with codes completely to make it easier for fans, ours chose to keep codes.

 

Ok I forgot about the second club statement adding personal info to the EFL statement, it’s still not advertising and you still have to go looking for it.

Whitey mentioned the other day that the club has not been provided with codes for the game. My understanding is that the EFL/iFollow sends them to the club as a batch and the club then distributes them.

I’m not sure why they’ve not done away with codes, but there must be some reason for it, as it seems to me the decision was made on an operational level rather than executive, so I trust they did it for valid reasons.

 

This

 

I know we all hope for the best but just as we weren’t allowed back in September when you thought we would be it won’t be April. Possibly next season depending on vaccine roll out. My missis who is quote high up in the pecking order due to work has been told autumn for health care workers to have it.

PS it’s Johnson not ‘Boris’ he’s not yet mate.

 

Oh I'm sure it was for valid reasons. Whitey said it was because fans were used to putting in a code each week and if it didn't work the club could sort it out but if we went codeless it would be ifollow sorting it and they didn't really trust them to sort it how the club could.

On a related note I can't find any other clubs informing their fans that Tuesdays game isn't included but I am still looking.

On another related note we were told that it was the EFL who wouldn't allow ALL away games to be included in ifollow but mk Dons claim on their website that it was because clubs voted against this.

 

That makes sense with the codes.

Yeah I haven’t found any other fans complaining about it, but I also don’t know how many other clubs opted to give midweek games out at all? It could also be that they just haven’t told fans yet.

I think all EFL decisions are member club votes, so it’s the same thing really.

 

I've just checked and league 1 and 2 don't get away games at all after they voted against it.

Blackburn rovers specifically mention Tuesdays game as being included however it was written earlier in the season

 

The Oxford should be announced in the next day or two so the they can start to roll out the 100 million doses ordered. She won't have to wait ten months for a vaccine.