Kyle Walker ......... if true FFS

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  1. Farnham_Red

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    Well if it’s untrue and his legal team issue threats it will of course vanish. If it’s true and the papers have proof why would they remove the story. I think the fact it’s vanished so fast rather supports it’s not, at least not as reported anyway
     
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    im lol at this ha ha imagine
     
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    Have super injunctions stopped being a thing!?

    Hopefully it's not true after former breaking of the rules.
     
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    Not sure but also I thought they were used to protect privacy in non criminal cases eg having an affair isn’t illegal so there is no right for the press to infringe someone’s privacy
    Having an illegal party in clear breach of the law is a bit different maybe some legal expert can tell us if they can also be applied in these cases I would hope not
     
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    Unless he's got an injunction which is not unusual.

    Two myths here:

    "There's no smoke without fire" - yes there is, all the time.

    "If it's true there's nothing to worry about" - Not the case at all. If you're rich you can buy the law.
     
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    Cost you about 50k for a UK super injunction. Can get them for anything you choose.

    Pointless though cos the ROI papers can print it.

    From memory.

    Ferdinand
    Clarkson
    Giggs - THe Mirror used to refer to him on their matchday twitter as player redacted.
    One of the flitcrofts

    All for shagging about.
     
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    I know anyone can get them to cover up “shagging about” but can you get them to cover up actual criminal behaviour
    Eg organising an illegal party or worse could Adam Johnson have taken one to hide the fact he was a convicted Paedo?
     
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    Technically yes for an "illegal party"

    Remember until you are actually convicted of a crime you remain innocent.

    Pointless upon conviction as the judge could declare it to be in the public interests.
     
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    Convicted, no. But Kyle Walker is innocent. In this country we're innocent until proven guilty. He hasn't been convicted, so yes, he can.
     
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    If someone was to pay a fixed penalty would that be deemed as convicted or would it have to go to court to qualify?
     
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    To add to that, I don't think this is a bad thing. I don't think there should be any reporting on someone accused of something, only someone guilty of something. The media have destroyed the lives of thousands of people falsely accused, or not even that, just questioned.
     
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    It would have to sit in court and then it would only come to light due to it being high profile.

    A lot of the covid related FPNs are going one of two ways. Dropped like a hot stone because they are unenforceable when challenged or getting passed through out of hours courts ( theres a term for it but I can recall it) where the level of fine is dependant on the judge you draw and their mood.

    If he challenges the FPN its likely to get dropped or dramatically reduced. The attendees ... £200 a pop. hours wage. **** it.
     
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    I think it is a bad thing for rich people to be able to censor the press for any story by chucking money at it. There are definitely some stories which warrant injunctions, but I don't think they should be generally available. If what's being reported is factually incorrect then the subject can pursue the matter through an action for defamation.

    I think there should be limits about what can be reported regarding arrests etc because as you say that can ruin lives if the person is innocent "no smoke without fire" and all that. But if no arrest has been made and the paper is reporting facts it believes to be true then I think that they should generally be permitted to do so.
     
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    Cheers, so if issued with FPN, it could qualify for an injunction. If someone disputed it and went to court and found guilty then wouldn’t, but if they just paid the FPN it could stay as an injunction?
    Or have I misunderstood.
     
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    Cheers, so if issued with FPN, it could qualify for an injunction. If someone disputed it and went to court and found guilty then wouldn’t, but if they just paid the FPN it could stay as an injunction?
    Or have I misunderstood.
     
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    If you pay the FPN in the time scale provided no one cares as they arent criminal convictions. so technically they can restrict the papers printing about it.

    If it goes to court thats when things become public knowledge.

    As Jay said though. If you are wealthy you make your own rules.
     
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    Probably true but removed....

    https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/spo...covid-19-rules-for-drug-fuelled-gay-sex-party

    Far as I was aware he proposed to the mother of his kids to win her back after cheating on her to father a child with another woman but he's not married like the article in the Daily Mirror in the above link says.
     
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    How thick are they?!? 4 Spurs players and one from West Ham. Photos leaked of their Xmas house party.

    Just heard discussion/interview. Only 5 names confirmed.

    I know a lot of footballers think they might possibly be above 'the law' but Christ on a bike. People are losing jobs, lives and a way of life. What are these pr1cks thinking of? Well nowt it would seem.
     
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    And now Indian cricket team. 5 families all having a NYE meal together and their test series now in doubt.
     
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