Something needs to change

You just lie every time. Every time you get into a discussion you lie. You're a weasel.

 

This new strain is now being reported as affecting sections of society that previously weren’t classed as vulnerable, ie Kids. Someone has already posted in another thread that his wife works in a hospital in Sheffield and there ‘s been a marked increase in child admissions. So where do we draw the line at protecting just the vulnerable, and if schools close many parents/carers who work simply won’t be able to.

 

I know for a fact that I could find evidence of you being against action while it was unfolding in Italy, when it was just coming onto our shores. But I'm not going to waste my time. It won't make a difference.

 

UK Deaths per million: 969.71
Swede: 745.42

Resounding failure

 

You fc*king well should find evidence of me " shouting from the rooftops that a lockdown will never happen and we should go for herd immunity" you lying weasel.

 

The comparison with their Nordic neighbours. The fact that the Swedes have said so themselves and abandoned the strategy.

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/...failures-have-exposed-myths-lockdown-sceptics

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...d-strategist-is-losing-the-population-s-trust

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jan/03/swedish-model-failed-covid-19

Even the Covid deniers have now distanced themselves from the Swedish model

 

now do Norway, Finland and the other Nordic countries. Or South Korea. Or Japan. The reason we have been so **** is that we tried a half arsed attempt at the Swedish model in a country with a far greater population.

 

https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart

 

Do you really think that you know better than the Swedish Govt who have now towed back quite strongly from this ?
https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart

 

Are you comparing Sweden with other Nordic countries simply because they're close or because they actual have a similar population distribution and demographic? I suspect it's the former. Why don't you compare Sweden with any of the 21 countries who have more deaths per capita, many of whom have had strict lockdowns?

 

here’s the FT tracker play around with it. You can compare any country to any other.

https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart

 

yes why would you compare countries with their direct neighbours who took a different route. Ok. Compare the Swedish approach with South Korea. Who got it right and who got it wrong?

anyhoo I can’t go round in circles with you all night. Think you and Jay may be the last 2 people in the world promoting the Swedish model. Even the proper Covid deniers have run away from it now.

 

Ok, replace 'will' with 'should'.

This is your comment on the first 'lockdown' announcement. You're now saying you weren't against locking down earlier?

Here you are saying you prefer a 'do nothing' herd immunity approach (edited down for the sake of space)

Here you are again advocating for a herd immunity approach

Plenty more examples, but the search function isn't great and it's late and I'm going to bed.


Side note, unrelated but interestingly, you once agreed with me that isolating the vulnerable is not possible. You just didn't care.

 

I have, and Sweden does not appear to be worthy of note in either direction. It has not fared the worst and it has not fared the best. It's pretty average, lost amongst many countries who have a lot of cases and a lot of deaths. Sweden themselves put this down to failing to protect their vulnerable. Lockdown doesn't appear to help at all.

 

Nothing in that comes close to what you have accused me of. Like I said, you're a weasel, attempting to discredit me with a something I didn't say. I've had many discussions, gave a lot of opinions, for you to do what you've done in this thread just shows what an utter fc*ker you are. You're just a ****. An utter ****.