US Election

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  1. dreamboy3000

    dreamboy3000 Well-Known Member

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    You can sometimes cash out a losing bet (as long as the market isn't already settled), but you would lose *most* of your stake. For instance, if you had bet on Barnsley to win, and we were losing 1-0 at half time, you might get 20% of your stake back. If you waited until the 90th minute you might get 0.01%. If you bet on a 2-0 score, and it was already 0-1 you would lose everything.
     
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    Arizona isn't just hot - it gets very cold in parts in Winter. Flagstaff is expected to reach -10 overnight and a high of +7-8 today.

    https://weather.com/weather/today/l/c060c5bc0298a5cf6f6e3fd9142d1ed8bfd0e6b8a5177af662561313f55cfe87
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I've done that before. Take 25% of the stake back and have another bet to try and break even again.
     
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    lolz
    More evidence of that gold standard critical thinking.
     
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    Maybe I’m just in different circles, because everyone I was talking to that had been following the trends and all the election analysts I follow on twitter were talking about how these states were going to flip when the early votes were counted. “Red mirage” and “blue mirage” were commonly used terms and it was known before the election even started which states would be which.
     
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    I’m just looking forward to giving Casual Tykes 100 quid to the gentleman bombers section of BLM.
     
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    Same here. It was obvious large numbers of the democrat vote would be postal and would come in slowly as they were counted. Biden even said as much to be patient as it would look like a high republican turnout at first until postal votes were counted.

    You won't convince the manneblussers otherwise though.
     
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    Flagstaff is a pretty tiny town though population wise. If you check the weather across Arizona as a whole you're looking at 15 degrees plus during the day in far more parts than you see the cold spikes, which is Flagstaff and the Grand Canyon mainly. I'm sure there's others, but Phoenix, Tuscon and even Payson which is just two hours away, have good weather in Winter.
     
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    Hilarious and obviously fake..... I'll remember that for later.

    Of all the people on this thread, I think the reality of the situation is going to hit you harder than most BarnsleyReds because the depth of your delusion is so much greater than everyone elses. I honestly think this election result in conjunction with the truth about your other favourite subject Covid19 could psychologically tip you over the edge.
     
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    Maybe you do. But the consensus being reported in to the mainstream and the interviews and features being reported in the mainstream, didn't paint that picture at midnight US time and 6am our time. I follow similar channels as you that had the same vision as you're saying here, but it wasn't coming from a place of supreme confidence. They weren't nailing their colours to the mast on it, and in some cases it was more in hope. There'll be outliers to that of course as there always is, but I'm sure you get my point.

    Nothing was a matter of fact at that time at all, but betting odds, the stock market, and the mainstream media were definitely leaning to a Republican win. To suggest that they outright weren't is a bit disingenuous of the reality. And it's that reality that is leading some people in the US to believe the fraud claims and lose trust in the voting process - not the 'Trump Base' but regularly everyday Americans.
     
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    I can certainly concur with that. I stopped up all night and watched the Election results come in live. At 2.30am UK time it was looking like a nailed on Trump victory..... then everything ground to a simultaneous halt while the truckloads of fraudulent ballots were wheeled in through the back doors. By 7am all the leads that Trump had in the swing states had been eroded and conveniently overturned. It went from 85% Trump to 90% Biden based on bets placed through Smarkets in the space of 4 hours.
     
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    Wow
    There goes the evidence of that great education again.

    Personally I’d be demanding a refund.
     
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    What is your knowledge of 'The United States v. Throckmorton' case BarnsleyReds?

    Given that you are an expert on all things US politics and SCOTUS I'm assuming that you will be well-versed on the rulings of this landmark case and its implications for the current election.
     
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    Perhaps knowing the likely surge for Biden from postal votes, the big betters and stock traders (both are really just gamblers) were using the early Trump "lead" to increase their winnings before switching opinion as the position shifted and the markets changed.
     
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    It most likely would have been Talk Radio as two-morning presenters Mike Graham and Julia Hartless-Brewer are that far to the right of politics they make Farage look like a Lib-Dem and would certainly be backing a Trump win.
     
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    I closed the bet out when Trump was ahead and things started smelling fishy Donny. Why would I demand a refund?
     
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    Quite possibly. But that's a different discussion isn't it?
     
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    I would never listen to JHB so it definitely wasn't her. And too early in the morning I think for her slot. Pretty sure it was Radio Five.

    And it was consistent with Breakfast TV coverage anyway.
     
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    Not really. We had Crispin Odey, Nigel Farage and others "enhancing" the chances of a Remain vote so that they could increase their winnings on the Brexit referendum - nearly conceding at one point overnight. Big enough players could easily push the market in one direction so as to maximise their profits before switching - that would be on both the stock markets and the betting markets - if they deemed the rewards are worth the risk. In this case, they are not just hitting the markets for profit (and most big bets were for Trump before the election - more money was on Biden but smaller stakes) - it is also leading the news agenda, which then increases their profits further.
     
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