Compulsory vaccinations

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149

 

They weren't being petty. They were following the new rules as outlined in the Brexit "deal" as agreed with the UK government

 

I’ll wait for the outcome of the investigation before overreacting. Hopefully either a coincidence or an extremely isolated incident pertaining to storage etc. Potentially worrying signs though depending on the outcome of the evaluation.

 

Plenty of vaccinations being thrown away, my step daughters a co-ordinator for the vaccine, she told me this and that if my elderly parents rang their surgery they could get one before they got their letter. They called their doctors last week and got a queue jump and had their first vaccine. The government haven't a ******* clue whats going on.

 

No, I'm not, but if anyone had used the language you have just used in relation to such people dying and having Covid-19 rather than dying and having the Covid-19 vaccine they would have been labelled murderers. Far, far less blunt language has been used on this forum regarding death being part of life and that has been exactly the result.

 

Don't even get me started on those who dare to even slightly question government strategy or any of the vaccines... despite hundreds - if not thousands - of scientists and immunologists asking the same questions. We're dancing to one tune, and it is that of SAGE. It could (I hope it doesn't), come back and bite us in the backside.

Clearly, I have to end this post with a disclaimer that I am NOT an anti-vaxxer, a COVID denier, eugenicist etc etc. Don't want sending off to reeducation.

 

The vaccine hasn't been rushed or anything but while we're injecting the public we need to find out if a. It kills people. B. If it causes problems with pregnancy. C. If it causes allergic reactions. D. How long it lasts. E. Whether it works giving doses further apart.

Sounds a lot like it wasn't fully tested to me with so many key questions coming after unsuspecting members of the public were injected.

 

It's too easy to just call anyone who raises these questions COVID deniers, though and send them off to reeducation.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-delay-second-dose-dangerous-strains

Clearly, there are very clever and qualified people questioning the vaccine strategy but they're being overlooked. SAGE has a monopoly on everything. It's bonkers.

 

That's what happens when the BBC tell you they're the experts and push them as the only experts.

 

Trouble is all the mainstream media are mouthpieces for governments who do everything with a political angle. Critical thinking skills are at a low ebb. The BBC don't just think they have the right as chief enforcers of the COVID party-line, they think they should be the ultimate authority on every aspect of your bloody life. What to think, what to do etc. Getting quite fed up of being treated like a child.

"But I saved for years in my last job to open my own restaurant and bar and work for myself"
"Don't care, YOU can't go to work"
"But it's my livelihood, I've put in precautions that were considered acceptable in the summer when everyone was being encouraged to eat out, what's changed?"
"LISTEN, we know best, YOU can't go to work, stay at home and stay inside"
"But what about the ten other people I employ"
"Them too, we know best"
"But.."
"No, be a good boy, or you have to give us £10,000".

Best thing is, people love it. People love being told what to do. They can't get enough.

Not a COVID denier or anything. It's clearly a horrible illness for many and precautions should be put in place. But it could have been handled SO much better. Also, let grown adults use their own judgement for Christ's sake. Nine times out of ten, small business owners will ensure guidelines are observed. Not everyone behaves recklessly, believe it or not.

 

But your post isn't saying it was fully tested, it's saying that having a vaccine with many serious questions is still less risk for the vulnerable than doing nothing is which I agree with by the way. That doesn't make it fully tested though.

When it was rolled out the manufacturers/developers stated it did not cause any adverse allergic reactions. This was proven wrong in day one. That's evidence it wasn't fully tested.
When it was rolled out they admitted they didn't know how it interacted with other medicines and advised against its use if you were in other medication. That's evidence it wasn't fully tested.
They didn't know how it affected pregnant women and advised against its use. That's evidence it wasn't fully tested.
The government is going with a big gap between doses, the developers say they've no idea what that does. That's evidence.
Does it risk the life of elderly people? You said we don't know and need to find out. Again that's evidence.
We don't seem to know if it stops you contracting the virus? The government is funding a vaccine passport yet also telling us that if we are vaccinated we can still catch and transmit it. The two are contradictory and are evidence it isn't fully tested.

We all know if you're at imminent risk and extremely vulnerable then the choice between taking the vaccine or doing nothing is no brainer but for healthy people there are so many unanswered questions due to its lack of thorough long term testing brought about by the need to rush through any kind of vaccine to help.

 

On that last one this is from gov.uk and was updated just 2 days ago "We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus. So, it is important to follow the guidance in your local area to protect those around you."

 

I don't believe we've released any information on this have we? The report I read about Norway said we hadn't.