All Adults Vaccinated

and to stop my missis nagging me about when she's going to have the vaccine

 

Tell her I've booked her in for 30th Feb, poggy sands vaccine supercentre.

 

Fair enough, but if things go wrong then they’ll rightfully be lambasted, if things go as they should then perhaps not only should we all be elated at the fact we can start to look at having some form of normality, bu that this Govt has something‘right’ at last.

 

I am generally anti-Tory, but that's based on policy, not the colour of the rosette. If they get this right (and it looks to be going the right way for the minute) then I'll happily give them credit, but at the same time recognise the tick in the "pro" column will still leave it woefully short of the "con" column when it comes to an assessment of the pandemic response. You can't really blame people for being cynical or pessimistic given their handling of matters to date, just look at our £12bn world beating track and trace system...

The Dutch government thing is interesting, but I don't think it supports your point. To me it shows a government willing to take responsibility for a mistake when it comes to child welfare. Can you ever see this government owning any of its mistakes in a similar fashion? No chance.



As for the "personal attacks", if you don't like accusations of hypocrisy then don't post stuff that can be interpreted as being hypocritical. I've asked a question regarding your stance on immigration a few times and it gets ignored every time. As far as I'm aware I've never posted anything that isn't informed by the content of your posts. If you say others don't get called out for posting on politics that's probably because they don't post political stuff after having talked about "the stupidity of politicising a pandemic..." when things were going badly for their point of view.

 

At least the Dutch government resigned. Can't see this government doing that , no matter what. They'll carry on awarding contracts to their cronies regardless.

Our press has never really reported much from Eurooe, other than the usual E U bashing .

 

Since I heard about this earlier today, I've been reading up about it and what happened was regrettable but the reaction of the Dutch government was admirable, admitting their error and taking the honourable course. Also it's the second time this century that the Dutch government has resigned en mass. The other occasion was in 2002 when a report criticised ministers for failing to prevent a massacre in Bosnia. As you say I really can't imagine any of our lot (including Tony Blair re Iraq) doing this.

 

The Dutch story is actually covered in all the mainstream media including the BBC. Just search Google, it's everywhere. I would imagine it's not on here as the majority of users of this BBS, and I include myself in that, have little knowledge or interest in Dutch politics.

 

They’ve fcked up the distribution then.

 

Or perhaps the healthcare providers in some areas have been just a bit more efficient than in others. As the Pfizer vaccine must be administered within 5 days, vaccination centres apply for more doses when they are running low, rather than just being sent a set number of vaccines regardless of whether they can administer them in time. It is not the case that areas where they have not yet got through the over 80s are sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for more doses of the vaccine due to unequitable distribution.

There is also the issue on the proportion of people that can physically attend vaccination centres. It is much easier to vaccinate a large proportion of the population if they can come to you rather than if you having to go to them. Many of the over 80s that have not yet been vaccinated are those that cannot get to their local GP / pharmacy / mass vaccination centre, and will instead be served by a mobile unit. Given the logistical challenges of mobile units (geographical spread, vaccine storage requirements etc.), it makes sense to continue to roll out the vaccine to under 70s who can attend vaccination centres rather than stop the whole operation because one logistical method of vaccination takes longer than another. Nor do I see this as being a major issue either, given those that cannot physically attend a vaccination centre are less likely to be attending places that put them at risk of infection (e.g. supermarkets).

 

And to add to the above there are also areas that have far more over 80s than others and a greater proportion. Plus the fact that as the North/South Covid divide illustrated, investment in the health service in the North is way behind the south. We had fewer cases yet our hospitals were far busier. The same under investment in the North will slow down the rate at which these areas can vaccinate the population.

 

Kirklees has seen another weekly drop in Covid deaths. Huddersfield Town ground opens two weeks today on the 1st of February as a mass vaccination centre. Everything is looking way more positive than it has for a long time.

 

I hope it is, but as it often the case when you start to see the light at the end of the tunnel, its some bugger with a torch bringing you more work.

There is still the issue with kids - who won't have been vaccinated - and those who refuse it, and the rest of the world outside this archipelago. There is also the issues reported today with 1/8 "recovered" patients readmitted to hospital and 1/3 dying within 6 months of release.

 

If all the over 80s and/or care homes have been done in Slough why is the next logical step to start doing the less vulnerable in Slough rather than to redeploy the resources to other areas? Covid has really become a government sanctioned postcode lottery

 

Interesting, where was this reported please?

 

It's true, you'll find it if you Google "readmitted to hospital covid" however it misses out two key facts.
1. They weren't readmitted or died afterwards with covid
2. The vast majority were the extremely elderly.

89 year old saved from covid regrettably dies 6 months later aged 90. Well that's hardly a shock. Of course when the vast majority of hospital admissions have been those who were sadly near the end of their life anyway then a lot of them will unfortunately pass away within a relatively short period of time afterwards.

Correlation is not necessarily causation

 

Just out of curiosity what are the current figures for folk hospitalised in BDGH with covid?

 

94.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/det...eaName=Barnsley Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

 

As of 12th January there were 85 people in Barnsley hospital for all reasons who had tested positive for covid.
There were 269 people admitted for any reason who had tested negative
There were 22 empty beds

 

Proof yet again that the figures never seem to add up because the NHS website states 85 on the 12th, the government states 94

 

Cheers lads