Good news if its allowed

Nissan committed to Britain, Sunderland plant to carry on well into the future.

 

Excellent news & if I heard it rightly a plant might be opening there as well for the manufacture of batteries for electric cars ,thus providing more employment in the area , well done Nissan

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-given-competitive-advantage-UK-outside.html

Great news. The boss himself talking about the competitive edge Brexit gives them to move business here from their own country.

 

I see you've neglected, like most of the people on twitter, to point out why Brexit gives them an edge? Because the UK gov is handing them a massive bribe to keep the factory open, so we the tax payer are funding a multi billion company to keep a factory open. Also they clearly expect to be able to undercut the imported cars on price due to new costs of importing.

 

Glass half empty type of fellow then.

 

Its not a case of glasses full or empty. It's a statement of simple fact. The government has offered them a sweetener to remain and probably to develop further in future.

It's a positive in some ways and we'll likely not know specifics of the deal and if there is any payback to the Treasury, but it's still a case that every taxpayer in the country is paying some of it to Nissan.

Personally, I can think of a whole range of things I'd rather spend my money on that give direct benefit to the country, the economy and it's residents. Something like EU membership or the like.

 

I take the points you raise and, to a degree, I understand and agree, but, if you are ordinary Joe or Josephine in Sunderland, planning a life of work, solid roots, family and a positive future, then this is wonderful news, every large enterprise will look for the monetary edge, that's just a fact of life, just as much of a fact as said Joe wanting his or her slice of good fortune, there is no doubt in my mind that other countries within the Euro bloc will have tempted Nissan with sweeteners, but Nissan believes, quite rightly, that Mackem Joe is the best person for the job.
The local and national economy will undoubtedly be buoyed by this agreement. I see and take it at face value, a win win for that particular area and nationally.

 

It's great news for the UK and especially Sunderland.

How much was this sweetener from the government? We might never know. The amount is essential information if anyone is going to call it either a success or failure of brexit. We just don't know.

 

Yeah but yours is half full, so together you’ve got a full glass.

 

Well as long as Joe and Josephine of Sunderland are happy.... thats all well and good then ;-)

The simple fact is Nissan have sunk a fortune into that plant and the cost of relocating elsewhere would be massive. They've threatened to leave, the government have given them a few hundred million and likely some nod of future orders or competitive advantage. The suggestion was they would likely leave Europe if they abandoned the plant.

And it seems as part of millions of pounds of taxpayers money, the government get an overegged company statement from Nissan to suggest this is all a great idea (despite their many statements to the contrary since just before the referendum when Nissan actively encouraged their workforce to vote remain.

I don't think it will buoy the economy greatly. It may circumvent a further dip in GDP, but I don't see huge gains from simply retaining something that should be there anyway.

I'd view it as its not **** news, rather than a moment of wonder and awe.

 

Wonderful news and a true testament to what we can achieve now we are a sovereign nation, unhindered by EU red tape.
The evidence is right there to see what a wonderful and attractive prospect you become to capitalist enterprise when you do away with pointless things like worker’s rights or clamping down on tax avoidance.
Rule Britannia and the boundless possibilities in her Bangladesh style trade agreements.

 

Ohh dear the government subsidise a company to keep jobs in Britain (which the EU does not allow) and this is not good Mmmmmm. Remember if we vote to leave then Nissan and the other employers in this great country of ours would leave in their droves!

 

1. Plenty of other employers have left or are in the process.

2. 'Government' = your tax money. That wouldn't have been needed to pay Nissan to stay if we hadn't left the EU and could've gone to the NHS instead.

 

Just think... if we were in the EU, Nissan wouldn't need a sweetener to stay and jobs would be retained. Taxpayer wins. Joe and Josephine win. Economy wins. Win win win, no?

 

Car sales in the UK fell 29% last year - 31% in the fleet market - costing the government nearly £2bn in tax alone. If this doesn't recover, then the Nissan plant in Sunderland may be less viable than it is now.

 

Amazing that something staying the same, at a massive cost for UK taxpayers, is hailed as a triumph for Brexit.

 

I don't quite get their logic. Tax payers money to EU bad. Taxpayers money to Japan, good.

 

Or we could just keep giving billions of pounds to the EU.

 

Why do Nissan need a bailout if there's a trade agreement?