Nicola S....

The biggest knock-on effect will be the loss of England's nuclear submarine base at Fastlane. No longer a nuclear power, rUK would probably lose its permanent seat on the UN Security Council.

 

I’ve got relatives in Scotland who all bar 1 voted against independence, if there is another vote they all will vote for independence. The Brexit vote was the deciding factor as at the time no one thought we would leave the EU

 

It was a U.K vote though. Can't you see the double standards. They still vote on policies south of the border. They should be able to have their cake and eat it then?

 

I think it's definitely reasonable in the case of Scotland to say that there's been a hefty material change in circumstances since the last one.

Besides, the electorate changes every day. If there's evidence that the general opinion might have changed in the meantime then I don't see the harm in asking people again. Surely holding a vote can never be anti-democratic.

 

I don't think the vote is but grinding people down until the eventually buckle through incessant voting is. I'm all for them going for reasons I've mentioned above. It annoys me that they want independence but get to vote on English policies. Then when a vote goes against them they're up in arms. I think it's double standards.

 

Isn't this part of the problem and what driving the swing in mindset since the 2014 referendum? This air of English superiority? And the contradictory tones between having wanted to leave the EU and Scotland wanting independence from the UK?

I've seen numerous comments over the years that Scotland costs England money, that they cant pay their way, that they get benefits and funds from Westminster etc. So why do those same people want Scotland to be part of the UK still? Doesn't the logic say if Scotland are funded by the UK, ergo England. Wouldn't England and the remaining UK be wealthier as a consequence? So why does it want to block it? What are the real reasons?

I'll listen to opinions all day about Scotland and Ireland and the merits of it. But the fundamental truth should be that it is the democratic choice of their people, and they decide what they want.

 

I have a government and Prime Minister against my will and also voted remain .
Where do you draw a line under it.

 

Well think... once they have independence, they won't get to vote on English policies. Problem solved for you ;-)

 

When you get your own way?

 

Are you a country?

You also have the individual right to leave the UK at any time. Obviously that's slightly more complex now, but you have that right all the same.

 

just quoting Sturgeons 'selling point' at the time that she used to try to get more voters on her side, there were no caveats when she kept saying it

 

Like I said I'm all for them leaving. Providing they don't get a massive divorce bill paid for by a tax hike.

 

Boris Johnson kept saying he didn't want a General Election yet kept trying to to manufacture one until he eventually got it.

It's the people who get to choose. If Scotland want to remain in the UK, it will. That just seems like democracy in action to me. If we'd voted 51.7/48.3 remain, I very much suspect we'd have had another referendum by now.

 

I recognise and admire your sarcasm and you’ve hit the nail right on the head. I think it’s not the nail you aimed at though.
Any leader with the slightest sense of public opinion, would never offer a referendum unless he/she is certain to win. And that’s the type of leader we had in Cameron, poor judgment. The beauty of referendums is that as a leader, you simply should not lose, but if you got your calculations disastrously wrong and did lose,,,, you can blame the electorate for any future ramifications.

 

It's not our choice though. And because of covid (and brexit to a lesser extent), tax rises are coming fairly soon. I've little awareness of what agreements there are legally on separations.

And for the record, I'd very much like the Union to be preserved. But I completely understand any nation wanting to leave it at this time now we've left the EU.

 

That's all fine and well but you seem to be forgetting they had the once in a lifetime vote and decided to stay. Things change in politics all the time that doesn't mean you have another vote each time does it?

They voted to stay in the UK and accept all that comes with that and like I say going forwards we are stronger together.

The SNP should concentrate more on sorting Scotland out than another damaging referendum that they have already lost.

Continually blaming Westminster for everything that goes wrong in Scotland is neither helpful or good enough for the people of Scotland.

 

As she banned over 65s lives in Scotland being saved by the Oxford AZ vaccine? If she's that desperate to be part of the EU surely she will want to abide by their vaccine rules.

 

Never heard of this
You might want to post proof of this

 

that’s what I said “it’s up to them”
I just gave my opinion which obviously means nowt to them

 

The EU say the AZ vaccine shouldn't be used on over 65s. Nicola Sturgeon wants to be part of the EU. I am therefore asking if she will release vaccines in Scotland under the advice of the group she wants to be part of.