Nicola S....

Tough call this, I've always felt the public should not have been given the deciding vote for Brexit, it was far too complex for most to understand properly. IMO the vote should have taken place been considered by the ruling party and then finalised in Parliament(no idea if even feasible).
I would suspect it would be similar in Scotland where most wouldn’t understand the actual implications.
So people should have the right to be heard and contribute but final decision should be by MP’s IMO.

 

A more truthful and honourable and decent individual I have yet to meet.

 

Thank god I don't keep your company then, crikey! ;-)

 

Was. for those that have died since.
I’ll get mi coit.
Would love Scotland to be a labour Stronghold and help us get shut of this shower of *****. Otherwise good luck to em. Why should everyone have to suffer. As for the economic side I haven’t a scooby doo.

 

Even more reason to let them leave. That said, I'd have accepted the result.

 

I honestly believe it is to what England will lose once we go is the main gripe here.
Westminster continue to paint as black a picture as possible as to what is in front of us.
But they know that England will suffer badly once our input is gone

 

That sort of proves my point. So place yourself in the shoes of a Scot who voted to remain, is no longer in the EU and is being told by English people that they can't show their democratic will.

We have to be very careful as democracy is a fragile thing, we might just walk deeper into authoritarian dictatorship without even realising it.

 

More to the point. What about a vote for a People’s Republic of South Yorkshire. ( Yorkshire if we must. I Just hate the thought of Leeds being involved)

 

Considering Yorkshire and Scotland are not that far apart in terms of population and GDP, maybe we should.

We could then both apply to the EU together and get filed away with the other runts of the European Union.

 

I'm going to vote for the Britas Empire.

 

Its a country part of the UK as it voted to stay in as such it will be expected to follow any UK wide votes.

We voted to leave the EU as the UK therefore Scotland as a member leaves as well its not difficult.

They shouldn't get another vote and should stop moaning and get on with making it work like the rest of us.

 

Do the thousands of Scots that have lived in England most of their lives get a vote? I've no evidence but might they sway the vote in favour of the UK? I know that the 4 Scottish blokes I used to work with couldn't stand Nicola Sturgeon and regarded the SNP in much the same vein as UKIP. If they get a vote they'd definitely be voting remain.

 

It really is that simple.

 

You're right, it's not difficult. If Scottish people want to be independent, that is their choice. Not yours, not mine, not any English person or MP.

Democracy is constant. Not just when its convenient. People change minds constantly. Circumstances evolve. The situation in 2014 is so vastly different to what we see today they have every right to hold another referendum, and Englanders blocking it, dismissing them, decrying them, and patronising them (all of which have numerous examples already in this thread) will only intensify that desire further.

 

As far as I know it’s the same rules as last time. Anyone living in Scotland and over 16 years old.
Now given that most pro remain votes last time were from the elderly and most in favour of leaving was amongst the younger generation.
7 years has passed and sadly many elderly have died . But also many more youngsters have attained voting age.
You can work out what I’m getting at and I very much doubt your 4 friends opinions will make much difference.

 

It's a good question and one I don't know the answer to. I'd envisage terms would be published and agreed at the time of setting the question.

If you consider the EU vote. EU residents living in the UK weren't allowed a vote (around 3m I think), while people who had left these shores were, and I think its fair to say that significantly affected the final representation.

 

I think what your missing is the fact it was a once in a lifetime vote by their own words... is the life expectancy that low in Scotland that 7 years falls into that category?

They had the chance and made the correct decision to stay and should stop all the division and work with the rest of us at this awful time.

I didn't vote for Brexit but accepted the democratic result so should Sturgeon and her party instead of using it as something to try and cause division in Scotland especially while there are more important things to deal with.

 

Surely we need to define a geographical area that excludes the likes of Sheffield? Don't know what it might be called though...

 

Fritzerland.