EU Contract With AstraZeneca

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  1. Dan

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    Do you find it curious that the media are constantly gunning for her... yet our prime Ministers vast numbers of infringements get glossed over, forgotten and excused?

    If you have issues about her, thats fine. But for many its not about things like this. Its about Scotland being subservient and being put into line. Ironically, often by the very people who wanted to be free from the EU under the shapeshifted guise of "sovereignty".

    You can't have it all ways.
     
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    Eh ? You're all over the shop there. Assumption-tastic.

    Which media ? The English media fawns over her every word.

    By the way, Craig Murray is an Independent Scotland supporter. Perhaps you should read what he says before commenting, that's always useful.
     
  3. Dan

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    Good grief.
     
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    Please don't tell me what i can call people and I will not you what to say you are saying could construed as bullying and harassment Thank you
     
  5. Dan

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    Quality. Carrying on abusing people then, you crack on.
     
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    you are the only one who is abusing someone me! good day
     
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    ps i have report you for abuse
     
  8. Dan

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    Abusing? Really. Calling you out on abusing someone is abuse?
     
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    That should be entertaining.
     
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    If you pump cash in to vaccines, you are going to get them quicker than somewhere else.

     
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    Just for balance.

    The president of the law society has suggested that if vaccines have been diverted to the UK from EU based production sites, there may well be a case of breach of contract and a possibility all contracts will need to be renegotiated.

    The EU seem very very confident though. Whether that's just bluster, or AZ are in breach, I suspect we'll find out relatively soon.
     
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    I am not a lawyer, but that contract looks to agree the EUs stance. It's probably made worse by the fact that the UK has an over supply of vaccines it cannot use for the current age group.
     
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    I suppose it all depends on interpretation of 'Best Reasonable Efforts' as stated at 5.1

    Although I'm sure certain EU officials have stated that 'best reasonable effort' wasn't a factor in the contract.

    Meanwhile EU citizens suffer, which is the real issue.
     
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    The difficulty seems to be that AZ look as though they intend to fulfil the UK contract (agreed three months earlier) before partially diverting UK production to fulfil the EU order. I think the EU will struggle on that.

    But regardless of he says/she says, it has to be sorted by reasonable compromise, because simply vaccinating the UK on it's own is little good to us. It must be tackled globally.
     
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    The bottom line in all of this is that the EU has done a poor job of the vaccination program and is now looking to blame anyone but themselves and score political points against the UK.

    If our government had made such a mess of it as the EU has then there would (rightly) be uproar.
     
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    That may be so, as it has turned out. But let's not overlook that our government spent money like Sheffield Wednesday in pre-ordering all the potential vaccines. It's worked out well enough, so difficult to criticise. But this is not a situation where vaccinating the UK alone will resolve all issues, so anti-EU points-scoring will not get us much further.
     
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    Yeah the government got a lot of abuse for going alone and not buying vaccines with the EU but it turned out to be a brilliant decision. With vaccine sites all over the UK it shows we work better together. Once the whole of the UK have been vaccinated our sites can be used to help out other countries.
     
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    It says best reasonable efforts to manufacture in the EU. We aren't in the EU to manufacture their doses to where the UK has to suffer and nowhere on the contract does it say if doses cannot be made in the EU they can take them from the UK.
     
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    You can't criticise the government for getting it right, because they might have got it wrong had things worked out differently. They made a call and got it right.

    Protecting UK citizens first is not anti-EU points scoring. The UK has got on with the job and done it well. The fact the EU has massively ballsed the job up themselves is a matter for them.
     

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