Nicola S....

**** off you ***** ******************

 

Do they then hold a referendum every time the SNP decides it doesn't like a democratic decision made across the UK, until they get the result they want?

 

Git ti ****

 

No Offence PR but your friend is nuts!

 

Personally, I would far prefer that they didn't vote to leave. As part of an island, they are much stronger in this union IMO.

What I would like to see however is massive power shift so like a virtual independence but without the complete split.

So the UK government would become essentially an upper house with equal representation from the countries that make up the UK. They would guide policy around the NHS, Defence, Laws etc.
All other taxation decisions would be handled by the otherwise fully devolved governments.

This would also mean the creation of an English only government for our affairs.

I'm sure an arrangement similar to that could ensure that the UK continues to work together. Obviously it would prohibit Scotland from rejoining the UK as that would have to be a UK decision as would impact the whole of the UK.

But I would like a deal to be clearly thought out and put on the table. Then offer a referendum on those terms no ifs or buts..

 

Obviously not. But we can't deny there has been a huge change in circumstance, can we? One that as a nation, they didn't vote for.

If we hadn't left the EU, and if Scotland had a majority vote pro brexit, then they have absolutely no reason to call for another referendum, and I doubt they would have been able to find a mandate to push for one.

 

That’s it mate. The Jeanie is now well out of that bottle.

 

I very much agree dont worry!

 

I think it's fair to have a referendum every time a party with it in their manifesto wins a majority. If the people of Scotland don't want to keep on having referendums then they can easily stop voting for parties which promise one.

 

Can't argue with that logic. As I've said elsewhere on this thread. If the Scottish people want it, then let them go.

 

Throwaway or not this is how the referendum was sold? Were the SNP misleading people? It seems to me they are as bad as the lot in Westminster saying things that aren't true to get their own way?

 

Its the choice of the UK government isn't it? The government should act in everyone's interest not just that of Scotland who already decided to stay.

If Brexit has taught us anything its that we are better off together not making unnecessary borders despite what the SNP keep pushing.

 

Not really Selby.
It’s like Barnsley reaching the FA Cup final and someone says I really must go to Wembley because it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity.
It isn’t because there would be another chance for it to happen again the following year.
So it was just a turn of phrase to describe the event and never meant to be taken literally.

 

Personally, let them go.

I've no beef with Scotland, even if loads of them hate the english.

Im not arsed wither way.

At least on PMQs I wont have to listen to the Scottish west minster leader keep repeating it even when the debate has nowt to do with the subject at hand.

I think Meh is the expression?

 

It's the choice of the Scottish people and its elected officials. It needs rubber stamping by Westminster.

I'm really not sure what to say if that's the lesson you took from the last 4 years.

 

Or a soundbite to mislead voters into making a decision that according to what your saying they could make again further down the line?

 

for Ian -

are the good people of Scotland more or less likely to vote for Independence now that Scotland is out of the E U.

 

My response to that would be to wonder what the legal difference is between Scotland and Catalonia in that case.

 

Well obviously I don’t know but at a guess I’d have to say more likely.
There is a real momentum here
Can’t see anyone trusting the tories after their previous treatment of the Scottish nation