Should we Appeal?

What is the letter of the law? Isn’t it excessive force? Nothing in the rule book about being sent off if it’s “two footed”.

 

Trouble is his ban straddles the international break, so he was going to get a rest anyway.

 

British officials can’t get VAR right so I hold no hope in an appeal. They will default to the position that the ref had a clear view of the incident and ‘his interpretation / opinion’ will be backed. The triple double roll poly screams in agony Shakespearean tragedy from their player didn’t help, but they also got Styles booked with the same tactic. So while my hearts pride and doing the right thing says appeal, my head knowing the EFLs track record of fixing wrongs, doing the right thing not the easy thing says I would not appeal and just get on with it

 

No consistency from the officials the 2 footed from behind on dike followed by the challenge on subnuclear on resulted in yellows

 

Because he was so close to the ball I don’t think there was ever any realistic danger of him hurting the Wycombe player but as it was technically two footed I believe an appeal would be a complete waste of time.

 

Amazing all these people who have watched football all this time yet still labour under the misconception that there is any reference to tackles with two feet in the rules.

Which it wasn’t anyway.

 

That’s not right Helen.

A two footed tackle in and of itself is not a sending off offence, it has to be deemed to use excessive force or to endanger an opponent. Of course in reality the vast majority of two footed tackles would fall into one or both of those things - but I really don’t see mowatt’s challenge last night in either camp.

 

I stand corrected.

 

I know, I’ve seen many a comment here and elsewhere talking solely about two feet - as you say, absolutely nothing in the law says a two footed challenge is a red card.

 

If that's the criteria Buzz Aldrin should be permanently suspended. And everyone who has ever run. Two feet leaving the ground is the definition of running.

There were three people involved in that incident. Two of them are guilty, one of them is entirely innocent.

One of them feigned injury and proved himself s4it human being. I don't know how players that do that look themselves in the mirror or meet their family.

One of them is a terrible referee. He may even be a cheat. If you make a decision to 'even things up' then you're a cheat. Either way he shouldn't officiate another game.

One of them made a great tackle. He's paid to make great tackles. That's his job. It was perfectly timed, it was clean, fair and within the rules. He won the ball, he didn't touch or endanger another player. I would expect nothing else from this guy because that's who he is. He's a model professional and a credit to the sport. Every single game he works as hard as jis body allows. Every single game he plays the sport fairly.

Of course we should appeal. We discredit ourselves and the sport if we don't. I'm fed up up of liars and cheats winning.

 

There was barely any force in it, almost a case of trying to get the ball while falling in his arse. Doubt they’ll win any appeal though.

 

I'm pretty sure the law mentions lungeing in which when you watch in real time it looks like he did.

 

I think the key point is that Mowatt’s legs are bent, which may be his saving grace in an appeal. Straight legs in a two footed tackle indicates being out of control, hence reckless. Maybe I’m being persnickety but it’s fine margins. Big Val said post match “The referee lost completely the control and that's why we have to appeal the decision.”

 

All these years we've had dubious red cards and we've never appealled. Little old Barnsley won't get that overturned - so we don't bother. We've never had the balls to appeal. Valerien Ismael has got balls - he's appealing this. Fair play to the bloke. I hope Valerien goes to the appeal panel, because I want to see the bloke who says No to Valerien Ismael.

 

He jumped in. With both feet. With studs up. Going to ground. And caught their player.

Those are the key points. And why it won't be overturned, not least because there's no way they want to encourage others in similar positions to appeal.

 

It doesn’t mention lunging in either.

As I say, endangering and opponent or using excessive force.

 

The best angle I've seen of it was on Quest. He tackles with his left foot, which is off the ground. His right foot and leg are at least 2 feet away from his left leg, and again pointing away from the opposition player. His tackling foot is pointed outwards, all his weight is actually being applied from his lumber area. If anything Mowatt was at more risk of getting hurt than the other guy. His right foot/ ankle raises because he's unbalanced, the down force and weight of his torso forcing them up. It's called gravity and basically he fell over. The fact he won the ball makes it to me a rubbish looking tackle, and during the 90 minutes you'd find numerous others of the same quality.

 

Having just watched the incident over and over I am not sure it was even a foul. He jumps for the ball and controls it between his feet before there is any contact with the opposition player. His feet are on the floor when contact is made which is on the outside of the players boot. Not the slightest danger. The ref responded to the player's reaction rolling over and over. The red card should be rescinded and the opposition player booked for diving. It was interesting yesterday because the game was being played in a reasonable manner until someone, who the commentary team described as the WW owner, started shouting using foul and abusive language, which seemed to result in them getting much more aggressive on the pitch and our guys reacting. Once the game was over there seemed to be a lot of respect shown between the players.