Just checking. Am I still a conspiracy theorist for believing we will have vaccine passports

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  1. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    I'm torn. If it's a very temporary thing and is the difference between getting back to concerts and sporting events again or having to wait a year or more longer then I can see the benefits.
     
  2. Gegenpresser

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    You asked a question. Go on and answer it.
     
  3. Redstone

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    Sorry you'll ahead to elaborate on that sentence. You want me to answer my own questions?
     
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    Because it isn't for them people to force their opinion on others. Football has never needed vaccination proof for entry and shouldn't start now. It would slow down getting in to the ground resulting in larger queues. This past year we've seen loads of protests for many different topics and never seen one spike. I don't see why sitting at the Football will be any different.
     
  5. Redstone

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    I suppose the fear is it will be as temporary as the restrictions have proved to be. I certain understand the argument for such a approach but I also understand the caution against it.
     
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  6. Redhelen

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    You could do the vaccination proof when you get your season ticket. That would cut down some queuing time for eg.
     
  7. Gegenpresser

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    Yep
     
  8. Redstone

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    Slightly bemused but ok.... I don't think it should be law to make people have a vaccine so they can attend events. The reason I asked the question was to determine if that's what the poster who appeared to be suggesting that actually thought or if I had misinterpreted it. Answering the question myself doesn't give me that information but I hope it helped you.
     
  9. Gegenpresser

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    What if somebody who could have a jab has a seat next to your father who can't have a jab for medical reasons?
     
  10. Redstone

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    What if two people who can't have the Jab sit next to each other and person "a" infects person "b"?
     
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  11. Gegenpresser

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    Do you mean that people have the right to attend events even if they haven't had a jab?
     
  12. Cun

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    Should have stopped all international travel after the first lockdown. Either in or out of the country. I'm certain we wouldn't be a year on with the possibility of it going on more. I've managed to not see my Mum 3 miles away...... I'm sure others could have done the same.
     
  13. Redstone

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    No I mean the people holding the events should be free to chose the criteria and then people can making a decision based on what they deem a acceptable level of risk. I don't think we should have government setting laws out though sadly I think they will continue to do so.
     
  14. dreamboy3000

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    Then my dad would take personal responsibility for his own adult life and not try to push others to do something nobody in 134 years has been asked to do to get in Oakwell (show medical history).
     
  15. Gegenpresser

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    OK. Your dad stops at home cos he's concerned about not catching something from somebody who's not prepared to do something (take a jab) that might save his life?

    Nice to see what kind of people you would prefer Oakwell to be full of.

    Show medical history? You're not walking in with your venereal disease record. It's whether you've been jabbed or not. I have, and it didn't hurt.
     
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    I will get vaccinated whenever it gets offered probably in May. I just don't think people who decide against it should be treated differently. We are all responsible for our own risk. If we show proof for a short time that won't be it. When you give up rights it's harder to get them back. Having to show at every home game vaccination proof will be a pain. Queues already take long enough with scanners not working, bags being checked, adults trying to get in a concession ticket and people not having their match ticket out ready.
     
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    er its illegal.
     
  18. Redstone

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    What if its someone else who can't have the jab you catch something off?

    What proof will those who can't have the vaccine have to carry?

    What do we accept as reasonable reasons for not having it?

    For the record I'll happily have the vaccine when I'm allowed as my parents and wife already have. But I think we have to be very careful about creating a 2 tier society and essentially coercing people into being vaccinated. You may feel in this scenario the ends justify the means but that's a slippery slope to start down.
     
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  19. Gegenpresser

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    The rights you are giving up in this case are minimal, for the greater good and pale into insignificance compared to other things.

    Now we're out of the EU you will find a fair few things that you have to do, to get back to where you thought you were, depending upon what you do and where you go.
     
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    Could I also see your certificate to show you're free of hepatitis and HIV.
     
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