Just checking. Am I still a conspiracy theorist for believing we will have vaccine passports

I don’t get this vaccine passport thing. So I have to wait for my second vaccine to prove I am ‘clean’? So once again younger people are hindered by this pandemic as we will be the last to be vaccinated.

 

There's no coercion at all though is there?

Just inevitable consequences if you haven't had the jab.

Those who can't have it are often those who are compromised in any event, in which case everything must be done not to do anything but help them

Those who choose not to take the jab without good reason should take whatever consequences, within reason, come their way. Why not just be jabbed for the good of society?

 

Tell me how these diseases are spread.

 

Look it up if you're interested, I'm not being drawn into the argument you want to have.

 

Why not just be jabbed for the good of society? - Peer pressure. Coercion

Just inevitable consequences if you haven't had the jab. - punishment for not taking the jab. Coercion,

 

I think so yes, the very act of potentially asking people to prove they have had it in order to be allowed to access certain public settings by government proclamation is exactly that in my humble opinion.

 

[QUOTE="Gegenpresser, post: 2693249, member: 120043]
Show medical history? You're not walking in with your venereal disease record. It's whether you've been jabbed or not. I have, and it didn't hurt.[/QUOTE]

Not that I am anti vax - far from it, I’ll be having it the second I’m offered - but why do so many people who’ve had the vaccine say ‘it doesn’t hurt’. Do they honestly think that is what the issue is for the vaccine hesitant? It’s absolutely moronic. Of course it doesn’t hurt, it’s a fücking injection, I’ve had thousands in my life.

 

You answer one of my posts then accuse me of drawing you into an argument?

I asked you to tell me how these diseases are spread.

Anyway, you can't catch hepatitis or HIV by close contact with them at a football match.Do you want to be drawn into an argument about that?

You can draw me into another argument you may have, if you wish, about what I've posted.

 

Not that I am anti vax - far from it, I’ll be having it the second I’m offered - but why do so many people who’ve had the vaccine say ‘it doesn’t hurt’. Do they honestly think that is what the issue is for the vaccine hesitant? It’s absolutely moronic. Of course it doesn’t hurt, it’s a fücking injection, I’ve had thousands in my life.[/QUOTE]

Maybe we are in a minority of people who are happy to have the vaccine but see the dangers of starting down the road of having to prove you have had it to access society.

 

Not that I am anti vax - far from it, I’ll be having it the second I’m offered - but why do so many people who’ve had the vaccine say ‘it doesn’t hurt’. Do they honestly think that is what the issue is for the vaccine hesitant? It’s absolutely moronic. Of course it doesn’t hurt, it’s a fücking injection, I’ve had thousands in my life.[/QUOTE]

One or two hurt for me. One was administered by an ex-girlfriend though. (she still works at the surgery, so can't name and shame)

 

Haha! ‘Errr - are you sure it’s supposed to be administered down the bellend, love?’

 

Are you happy to have non-jabbed persons suffer certain consequences?

I'm all for freedom not to be jabbed. Coercion is wrong.

But if you don't get jabbed, then there may be scenarios where it works against you.

Simple as.

 

That’s exactly the issue. I would never dream of being so selfish as to try and suggest to others what they should do with their own body. I think it’s outrageous.

 

She apologised for her weight gain in the intervening years.

As did I.

 

You want people to show their medical history to enter a sports stadium. It's obscene. I have no interest in following you down the path of discussing how diseases are contracted.

 

I think those are mutually exclusive statements.

 

If you ever wonder what your risk is ...

https://www.qcovid.org/Calculation

 

Don't be silly.

I'm asking you to show that you've had a Covid jab. For the safety of others.

 

If you want to go to certain countries you need to have a jab.

 

Equating Yellow Fever with a mortality rate of over 40% to Covid with a IFR of at worst 1.5%?