Just checking. Am I still a conspiracy theorist for believing we will have vaccine passports

But not everyone can have the flu vaccine, it isn't free and so many can't afford it and It's nowhere near as effective as the covid vaccine meaning that even if they've had it you can still kill them. Shouldn't you have to take a test before entry to make sure? How guilty would you feel knowing you had it despite your vaccine and you pass it on to someone who dies?
Surely this exactly the same thing, same end result is sadly a buried person. Same guilt?

 

Yes, I would feel extremely guilty if I knew that. Me taking a vaccine, everyone who is vulnerable being offered a free vaccine, millions of people who aren't vulnerable being able to purchase a vaccine is me doing what I realistically can to limit that chance as much as possible. You, on the other hand, don't have a flu vaccine despite having spent almost a year on here saying how bad the flu is and are arguing for no checks whatsoever to take place to try and limit the spread of Covid because it might waste a bit of time out of people's day and someone else might still die from the flu (that you have done nothing to help protect them from).

 

Why would I answer a loaded question like that? Genuine or not? Look at the end ing to your pont c: "puts everyone attending (and their families, colleagues etc.) at risk". Maybe that's what you think, but it's very controversial, there is very little if any evidence that the virus is readily transmitted outside. There's no evidence that the vaccine is safe long term either, as we've been unable to test it long term, but your points don't say, for example, show proof of a vaccine that has not been proved to be safe long term and which no one yet knows the consequences of this mass inoculation. That's actually a true, where as what you've put isn't. But that wouldn't be appropriate in a questionnaire either. Am I going to answer questions where one of the options is that "everyone" is put at risk, based on your unsubstantiated belief? Of course I'm not.

I'm suggesting that a health passport that limits what you can and can't do is a very, very dangerous precedent. I believe we should all be rejecting this with all the power we have because if we don't it will be you or your loved ones that suffer.

 

Public health England calling for masks to be worn and social distancing to remain for years

"people have got used to those lower level restrictions now, and people can live with them, and the economy can still go on with those less severe restrictions in place so I think certainly for a few years"


But saying so made us conspiracy theorists.

I prefer the term realist

 

No point having a flu vaccine when I wasn't allowed to be anywhere near anyone and when I'm expected to pay for the privilege

 

I've a feeling that it will lessen over time as cases and hospitalisation go down naturally. As in , there won't be an official no more masks date.

 

There will have to be an official no more masks date though as it is a legal requirement. Until an official date in which they are not deemed a legal requirement then they must continue. If you've got the government talking about restrictions continuing and public health England calling for them to continue for years then they can't just be eased naturally as its the law.

Interesting that in Bozo's roadmap he never mentioned removing the legal requirement for masks

 

I think what I'm getting at is the legislation will follow what occurs naturally. Remember, places can't demand you wear one or ask why you aren't. If the risk lessens then people wearing a mask will lessen as it won't be in the forefront of their mind.

 

A) I’ve no idea if they’re coming in
B) I don’t believe I’ve ever called anyone a conspiracy theorist about this topic

 

Where I said event I meant indoor events as well such as gigs. I'll give you the last point. What is your answer if that last bit is taken off point c as I am still interested in what your choice is.

 

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings in a Relevant Place) (England) Regulations 2020


Citation, commencement and application

1.—(1) These Regulations may be cited as the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings in a Relevant Place) (England) Regulations 2020.
(2) These Regulations come into force on 24th July 2020.
(3) These Regulations apply in England.


Requirement to wear a face covering whilst entering or remaining within a relevant place

3.—(1) No person may, without reasonable excuse, enter or remain within a relevant place without wearing a face covering.


5.—(1) Where a relevant person considers that another person is, at the time of entering the relevant place, not wearing a face covering, in contravention of the requirement in regulation 3, the relevant person may deny entry to the relevant place to that person.

(2) Where a relevant person considers that a person is not wearing a face covering, in contravention of the requirement in regulation 3, the relevant person may—


(a)direct that person to wear such a covering;


(b)direct that person to leave the relevant place.


(3) Where a person does not comply with a direction given to them by a constable under paragraph (2)(b), the constable may remove them from the relevant place.


(4) A constable exercising the power in paragraph (3) may use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of the power.


Offence and penalties

6.—(1) A person who contravenes the requirement in regulation 3 commits an offence.

(4) An offence under this regulation is punishable on summary conviction by a fine.


Expiry

10.—(1) These Regulations expire at the end of the period of 12 months beginning with the day on which they come into force.

 

Am I to take that as you have had one every other winter?

 

Given that the vaccine doesn't prevent total transmission or infection ( the level of which would depend on the relevant mutation) just reduces the symptoms of infection, in turn reducing the need for hospitalisation/treatment why would it matter if the person next to you has had a vaccine or not?

 

All restrictions are gone in June. . .

 

Review the mask situation then

 

Not every mainly because they aren't even advertised to healthy people anywhere so I never even think about it but I have had them a few times if I've been in a chemist or whatever around that time of year and thought about it

 

Not a chance.

 

You could quite easily say tomorrow that face masks are voluntary and it wouldnt make one jolt of difference to case rates and any subsequent mortality figures. Wearing a face covering has to far too many normal rational people become almost something akin to religious fever when in reality they do the square root of **** all in general population to prevent viral spread.

 

Oh as a teacher youll like this, the prevalence of Covid in schools based on the mass testing using LFT - about 0.04%.

 

I can't remember if I looked into that one specifically but every form of testing I looked at the research for had a much higher false negative rate than false positive.

All the false results were relatively minimal though in their impact.