Anyone got any sympathy whatsoever?

No, not a smidge..

 

Not quite true. You lose the right to vote if you have been a permanent resident abroad for over 15 years or if you fail to register as an overseas voter on a regular basis.

 

Any element of personal responsibility? Although I do agree politicians told them lies.

 

Sorry but again certainly in Italy you are wrong. As an EU Citizen you did not strictly need a permesso di soggiorno (the one major difference between EU Citizen and say Americans or Australians) which allowed you to stay for up to 5 years. However to be guaranteed the right to stay after that time you had to apply for permanent residence and to do so you had to meet certain criteria . I am not disputing that coming to the EU to get short to medium term employment has become more difficult but for retired people or people who are of working age ne already in the EU wishing to become permanent residents It Is still possible.
It does impact a small minority of people in certain circumstances For example, when we both die my daughter would have had the right to come over and take up residence in our house . I believe along with inheritance rules that has changed.

 

Yeah, despite the mendacity from across the board I struggle with it as well to be honest. Everybody had access to the same information and sources at the time. Those who are disappointed by the consequences of their own actions need to reflect on it and work out why - divesting them of responsibility doesn't help that.

I'm on record on here as having seriously considered a vote to leave before I was eventually talked round. The potential downsides were clear to me even then.

 

The rules in Spain are tougher than here in Italy. e.g. It Is about 9k euros PA needed per household. Private Health insurance Is not needed provided you register with the Health system here and pay around 400 euros per annum. For that you get the same services.....G.P access etc as an Italian Citizen. You need a codice fiscale and ID card for quite a lot of things here. Income tax is higher here and strictly taxed from.the first euro although a small tax free zone applies to those on a Low income. IVA (VAT) Is 22%.You do not come here as a tax haven!

 

Which country? entering the country, certainly Italy, Is one thing but taking up permanent residency i.e more than 5 years is another. Reregistering a UK registered car
even before Brexit you had 6 months to do so. Same with DL changing from UK licence. Strictly some sources said you did not have to but others did.

 

Five years is a very long time in today's society! I'd say that well under half of the people I know who are my age or younger have ever held a single job for that long, and nowadays there must be very few who plan that far ahead.

If you do go somewhere, find a job and end up happy in it four and a half years later then permanent residency is obviously an option that you're going to look at, but absolutely nobody is applying for a job in 2021 assuming that they'll be doing the same thing in 2026. It's the completely normal people who are thinking 18-24 months ahead whose options have been slashed, and that's going to make up the vast majority of the British people who want to live and work in Europe.

 

Are we still allowed to move to Australia? Or do you have to pay tax there as well and be able to support yourself before you move?

 

Malta. I've been here 6 years and wasn't required to become a permanent resident. It was only due to Brexit that I needed to apply for the residency documents.

To be fair I don't drive over here as its small enough not to.

 

Not 100% on this as Australia has never really appealed to me, but I'm pretty sure you need to do something that's on the list of workers they need, regardless of whether or not you can support yourself. So in my case the answer to your first question would be no, and it wouldn't matter if I had a million in the bank.

 

I think there is something about employing people so with a million in the bank you could probably " invent" a business.

 

Whereabouts? Love Malta. Stayed in Mdina which was great and so was Rabat and Valetta and just about all of it.

 

Went to Malta with the family July 1997, a few weeks after we got promoted to the PL. Had a great booze up for 2 weeks celebrating

 

Mdina is lovely - some great views. Same can be said about Valletta.

I'm not a million miles away from Valletta - granted Malta is so small that everything is pretty close .

I'm just down the road in Gzira/Sliema area.

 

Bet that was a fun two weeks!

 

Valetta was great, loads of interesting history. We stayed in st George's and I remember took a fishing boat across to Comino and saw loads of flying fish. Loved the old style buses too that were driven by lunatics, thank goodness they all had a St Christopher at the front!

 

The last time I went the old buses were gone which was a real shame.

Now I know there's a lot of arguing on this board BUT here's a fact.

Maltese bread is the best bread in the whole world. Especially with some mashed up cat-faced tomato on it.

Once walked out to the Dingli cliffs. Hot day and no one around except for an old bloke with white hair in an overcoat looking out to sea. He pointed out to a rock bout a mile out and said. "We used to use that for target practise lad." He was from Sheffield and turned out he'd been on a destroyer during the siege. "Stukas over the harbour, down they'd come... down and down...we got a few but you knew some would get through... Just hoped your name wasn't on it." That afternoon he was off to a ceremony where they were going to give him the freedom of the island. Or summat like that, he wasn't sure.

At Tak'ali one bloke tried to sell me a full-size knights outfit made out of tin

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