[Official Site] AN UPDATE FROM DANE MURPHY

I don’t know if you know but there’s websites that do this sort of thing for you. My auntie did one for my cousins birthday during lockdown.

 

The irony. Some on here. = real fans. A general skit at anyone with a different view.

 

We’ll try and come up with something to please everyone. Don’t worry.

 

I've read 3 of your posts and I've still not got a clue what point you're trying to make. You seem to be clinging onto my remark about "real fans" in my initial post - which was clearly a tongue in cheek point about those having a go at other posters for previously criticising The Board.

It's not having a go at those with a different view to me - they're welcome to that view. Opinions are like arseholes. I'm having a go at a few people who still peddle the narrative that because we've been brilliantly run as a club for a few years that anyone who made negative points pre 2019 hasn't got a right to enjoy the current success.

 

I think it's obvious now what these owners are all about. They want to move the club forward. The "P" word might not happen this year. It might not happen with Woodrow, Mowatt, Dike, Anderson, Helik. It might not happen with Val in charge but it will happen.

Once a club is on an upward trajectory with the money behind it the best can be achieved.

 

That's completely untrue.

I have no emotive feelings about the owners. My comments about them have always been in highlighting inaccuracies or issues that fans should be aware of. And crikey, there have been a lot haven't there? I simply want my club run responsibly, fairly, honestly and with as much transparency as possible. And there have been many. I've also considerable issues with the current trend of owners/consortia that own multiple clubs. And I'm really surprised UEFA and FIFA are allowing it. Actually, I take that back relating to FIFA!

If the owners leave the running to James and Dane, all's good. Whenever they've interjected, thats where things have gone awry swiftly. So it's better that they keep their traps shut. As we saw just a few weeks ago, we had Conway spouting further inaccuracies inferring players had rung every season ticket holder which was quickly proven to be untrue. It's the verisimilitude that fans should be very wary of. But thats up to each individual to choose how they view risk and historical actions.

 

Tongue in cheek. "Before I hit reply it would be remiss of me"
only you know the truth. It's not how i read it.

Maybe you also could do with a lesson on making yourself clearer. The term Real fans was used in general to mock those who supported the board. On certain issues.And those that chose to renew season tickets by those who chose not to.

I don't know if you were one of those. But that's how it came over to me. If I misunderstood. I apologise.

But it appears by your comment ( my interpretation of the post admitted) you have been upset in the past of not being called a real fan. In my world, we are fans. There is no such thing as true fan or real fan.

Some fans are indeed looking for the first opportunity to slag the board off. Fact.

Some fans think they are better than others. Fact.

I hate generalisation. And people put in groups.

As I say if I've misread your post. Apologies.

 

I think you have.

I was just making the point that people who've posted in this thread to basically say "SEE....SEE....I BET YOU'RE GUTTED ABOUT THIS INTERVIEW. I BET YOU'RE HORRIFIED THAT COMMUNICATION IS SO GOOD" are a bit weird. That's all.

Happy to leave it there though HF.

 

There's nothing clever about saying "I told you everything was rosey at the club" just because the team on the pitch are winning a lot. Just as there's nothing clever in saying "everything at the club is ****" just because the team on the pitch are losing a lot.

Results are king.

Yes, there are going to be errors made by the club from time to time, because it's run by human beings. And a lot of good decisions will be made also.

But how the club is perceived depends largely on results.

We've been putting out updates from Dane for much of the last 12 months. From being bottom of the league, to where we are at right now. They're all still online. We've been as transparent as possible and I think fans understand that now. But honesty isn't always taken as such, at the time.

 

Aside from Murphys initial vanishing act and the shocking Ludewig statement (if he was responsible in part), he's done ok with the media. Can't knock frequency and availability. And obviously there are plenty of things he can't say or isn't allowed to say which he can't be blamed for.

And I very much agree, results do colour opinion for many. Off the field and on the field and behind the scenes don't always correlate. And sometimes they do.

It's possible the team are doing amazingly well, but certain parts of the ownership are making a pigs ear of things. It's possible the team are doing shockingly badly and the ownership behind the scenes are making effective swift decisions that assist a future upturn.

Fans will never see the real ins and outs (or very rarely), which makes it all the more important that what they do see is accurate and transparent. Whether thats through club channels or not.

 

I was just making the point that people who've posted in this thread to basically say "SEE....SEE....I BET YOU'RE GUTTED ABOUT THIS INTERVIEW. I BET YOU'RE HORRIFIED THAT COMMUNICATION IS SO GOOD" are a bit weird. That's all.

Happy to leave it there though HF.[/QUOTE]


So in effect that's how you've interpreted those comments. Did you not think it was a very good interview. Cos I did. If others had it on the agenda point em out.
And I'll leave it there.

 

Because he called his performances at the start of this season inconsistent? I suppose you've got a point there. But being frank, he was worse than inconsistent in those opening seven games he played in.

He was Gerhard's player. As was Ritzy. And the club had allowed that second loan to happen, to trust their coach, rather than bring in Brittain. But when it was clear Gerhard was leaving, it was agreed mutually to terminate the loan deal. Schalke wanted him before we'd got him in August. So it just made sense. And we went and got Brittain.

I'll accept that maybe we shouldn't have included the 'inconsistent' remark. Like I say, we're all humans and make mistakes. But that decision and the move to bring in our own player in Brittain is one of the best pieces of business we've done in many a year.

For what it's worth, I loved Kili and think he'll come good in the future. A terrific kid who played for the badge whilst on-loan from another country. Which I think Dane did say in his statement also. I feel like we could have put anything out back then and it would have been attacked. Like I say, we were losing a lot.

 

I've no issue with the choices the club makes on players. As fans we don't see financials, we don't see politics, we don't see which players get on or not, we don't see whats said behind the scenes, we don't see agent activity. Obviously in time they may be criticised or not, and some may have validity or not.

For me though, the Ludewig comment really jarred. And we've got to remember we have and have had some really young kids, some from other countries and cultures and far from family. What the club openly say in public could carry more weight than anything else.

I didn't see much from Ludewig to be honest, i didn't see much of the Struber reign really, I had far too much on my plate sadly, but I did see him get praise and from within the club. To then come out so soon after raving about his loan signing just didn't sit well with me and I thought it lacked class and respect and probably said so at the time if I was around.

But yes, the signing of Brittain has been fantastic business. But that doesn't excuse a really crass disappointing comment from the CEO of BFC at the time of Ludewigs departure. The two things are completely independent. Well done to the recruitment team for signing Brittain. Poor show for the Ludewig communication at the time.

 

Get off the fence, man.

 

Of course it's a good interview. You've missed the point by 4 miles.

Have a nice day.

 

There is no fence (in Matrix spoon bending styley) ;-)

 

Of course it's a good interview. You've missed the point by 4 miles.

Have a nice day.[/QUOTE]

 

The quote on Killian was from Dane. I didn't think it needed to be said, especially as he was part of the team that avoided relegation the season before and there were other players who weren't performing particularly well. Callum Brittain has been a great replacement though and he's all ours ( for now!)

 

No, he was part of the team that ensured divisional retention.

 

Did anything ever happen about a way for us all (not just those on Twitter or who want to record a video message) to pass on our thanks to the players and staff for this season? I know the 4,500 lucky ones will give it their best next Monday.