Red Hot Chili Peppers

Showbiz is extraordinary. The song itself. Incredible track.

 

Was having this chat with my mate from school recently who I used to work go gigging and record shopping with. We both agreed that of the Britpop era bands, Pulp and Suede have aged the best. His n Hers and Dog Man Star would both sound fresh and original if they were released today. Not Britpop but from the same era - Monster by REM, which was panned at the time it was released, was one of the most misunderstood albums of the decade. Years ahead of its time.

 

I actually like a fair bit of Oasis' later stuff, but you're right. Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory are unbelievable records. There isn't a bad track on either of them, but plenty of classics on both.

With blur, I agree again, slightly. But I think Coffee and TV, Tender, The Universal, Country House, Beetlebum, Song 2.... they're all very good from their later stuff.

 

I wore the grooves off my copy of Live Dates

 

I like both. Again. Agree on Suede. I really liked Placebo too, and Garbage.

I'm useless at music threads, because I don't ever slag anyone off. Because it's music. It's each to their own, and there's bands I don't listen to at all, but I might enjoy a tune or too. For example, nobody would suggest I'm into Take That. Yet I adore Babe. I loved the concept of it. Great track. As I've got older I've begun to appreciate so much more music, but at the same time, I don't listen to a lot that I once was in love with.

 

I really like Placebo as well. Seen them a couple of times live: once in the Sheffield Octagon touring the first album, and once in St Petersburg at a much bigger venue years later. Both gigs were excellent, though obviously the first one had a lot more raw energy. Completely agree about becoming more broad minded as we get older. I never used to think of my music tastes as being particularly diverse, but when I look at my Spotify playlists, they contain everything from Northern Soul through to The Decemberists and Lorde, spanning seven decades. And that's before we even start on the whole spectrum of electronic music which I also love, from Hacienda style piano house to very hard filthy techno.

 

It's all very subjective where music is concerned of course but saw this on twitter which pretty much sums up my opinion...

Here's what's just struck me about Oasis: THEY HAVE NO FAST SONGS. They just lumber about, fat-arsed and graceless, at 20mph because it's a residential area. Music for people who can't-dance-won't-dance. They ARE rock but they DON'T rock. And what's the ******* point in that?

 

Monster is phenomenal.

 

Did the same with Argus. Saw them live twice back in the early 70s, brilliant. I also saw Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash a few years ago, definitely worth seeing.

 

I’ve seen the Chilis about 6 times, one of my favourite bands of all time.

Theyre amazing live, dunno where anyone thinks they aren’t, that’s bonkers. I’ll admit they’ve not made a brilliant album since By The Way in 2002, the later stuff hasn’t been as good. Every album before that was top notch.

Ive also seen the foos about 8 times. Another great band with an absolutely top draw front man.

This thread is mental.

 

Saw them myself around the same time...they do the picturedrome every year but I can never seem to get there
https://www.picturedrome.net/tickets/Wishbone Ash/20211030.htm

 

I’ve seen Martin Turner’s Wishbone Ash a couple of times at a small acoustic venue in Kinross.
Great entertainment. Oh and thanks Sparky for that copy of Live Dates.

 

No love for Stadium Arcadium? I personally think that contains some of John’s best work! The problem was it’s a double album with 24 tracks to get through, you could cut that down by about 7 or 8 tracks & it would arguably be their best ever album!
I have seen them twice & both times they were excellent, I think this thread is proof of how musical tastes vary, not a bad thing.
One of my favourite bands haven’t been mentioned yet, we’re onto page 3 of the thread & I am shocked!

 

Opinions and all that but I think Dog Man Star still sounds like the biggest pile of self indulgent garbage ever put to tape. It's not that it hasn't aged well, it sounded like that at the time. The first album is a little disappointing after the the heights of The Drowners and B-sides and particularly Animal nitrate (and the B-sides on Stay together) but DMS is a double album of Bernard Butler masturbating. (Although New Generation is OK)

As for Blur, The Universal is a lovely song but I can't think of a punishment severe enough for Country House. Inserting said house in Damon's jacksy might do it.

Best britpop song is Stutter. Also the best song about Damon's premature ejaculation.

 

Interestingly I didn’t rate it at all. No more than a couple of good tracks on it for me. I just didn’t think it had/has the RHCP sound in it.

Sounds overproduced pop rock.

Again though each to their own. I still love listening to all the previous albums.

 

I think that's Andy Powell's Wishbone Ash, they continued after the other original members left and they mostly play the later stuff. Martin Turner's version is akin to a tribute band playing only stuff off the first 4 albums. I seem to remember that there was a legal case brought by Andy Powell a few years ago, but Martin Turner's band are still going.

 

Should definitely have been a 12/13 track album. Dani California, Wet Sand, Ready Made etc all great songs.

 

Wet Sand is a banger! As is Slow Cheetah!

Yeah different strokes for different folks & all that!
One thing I will say though, Californication album could do with a remaster, the mastering & mixing on the original is awful & spoils a great album.

 

Kraftwerk - The Man-Machine (7th), Computer World (8th) and Electric Cafe (9th) were far better than their first two albums.

But generally, you are correct. I don't believe The Rolling Stones or The Who have released much of note in the best part of 50 years.

 

I also think that it's to do with perception. If you fall in love with a band's initial sound/albums, as they evolve over time they may move away from what it was that initially attracted you to them.
Hence hipster syndrome (you only liked them until they became popular) is probably actually a thing for some people, and some people born in the 2000s will enjoy discovering new music by old bands.