Interesting news from New York

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  1. Ste

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

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    It’s hardly apartheid is it though.
    By and large folk who get vaccinated and wear masks do it because they want to feel safer and ‘do their bit’
    It’s mainly the don’t believe in it brigade which go on about how it doesn’t make a difference.
    In that case let the ones who maybe feel vulnerable and want to feel safer sit together and let the ones who can’t be arsed sit together and share conspiracy theories.
    I don’t see any harm in it at all it’s like having a smoking and non smoking section, except a bit more serious.
    I mean they separate rival supporters to save arguments.......
     
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    Although, to be fair, millions have died, so maybe it's worth giving it a go.
     
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    Deafening Silence Well-Known Member

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    Do you insist on being able to park in disabled car parking spots and sit in the disabled stand at Oakwell?
     
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    MrsHallsToffeerolls Well-Known Member

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    Could be over 2 legs or 2 legs over. Mmmm
     
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    You could also argue that those who have been responsible and vaccinated for the greater good shouldn't be penalised by having to stay away from events because those that choose to be unvaccinated are there. Think this is a fair solution for now while the pandemic is still raging you're not penalising either group this way surely?.
     
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    Bet they`ve dropped a bollock or two.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I don't see the comparison at all. It's daft to think of mixing school children of all ages, it isn't as daft to think that a data driven policy allows everyone to mix together.

    I'll get the vaccine on day one that I'm allowed. If a friend of mine is unsure and doesn't have it then I don't feel we should be segregated, banned from travel, or not allowed to sit on the same side of the pub/restaurant.
     
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    Tyketical Masterstroke Well-Known Member

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    Are we doing random non-sequiturs?

    Errr - do you prefer Gouda or Manchego?
     
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    I assume though, that vaccinated people can go sit with the unvaccinated, just not the other way around...
     
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    Not everyone who doesn't want the vaccine is being irresponsible though. Maybe in your mind but that doesn't mean it should be a national or global rule.

    I think segregation of any kind is a slippery slope when the data as yet doesn't determine that it needs to happen. I wasn't segregated at the snooker final on Monday night and I won't expect to be segregated at the first leg of the playoffs or at Wembley.

    I wouldn't say the pandemic is still raging either? No wonder we're living in fear if that's the kind of language we're using.
     
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    Aint one a defender and the other a forrad.
     
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    You said segregation based on medical status?
    I assume that people who are vaccinated can sit with the unvaccinated, just not the other way round.
    For the record I make a fantastic bacon, pea and manchego risotto.
     
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    Love a good risotto. Challenging dish to get right.
     
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    You got a play off ticket already, was it a Colchester stub?
     
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    Not sure I agree with this but I think that once again, those arguing against it are coming from it as if they think unvaccinated people are being punished rather than seeing that as the standard and some things are being relaxed more quickly for those who’ve had the vaccine. If they successfully argue against it then the alternative will be everyone spread out socially distanced and a smaller capacity. I’m not sure that’s what those arguing want but it is what they will get. Same with ‘Covid passports’ where the system is everyone takes a test unless you show proof of a vaccine. Arguing against it means everyone has to take a test every time, regardless of vaccination. Again, that is fairer in that everyone is treated equally but I’m not sure that those arguing against the ‘passports’ are wanting the outcome of ‘everyone must test, no getting away with once you’ve been vaccinated’ but that’s what they’ll get. You’re not arguing for freedom for unvaccinated people, you’re arguing for prolonged restrictions on vaccinated people. As long as you understand that and are fine with it then crack on.
     
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    Exactly, same as with the ‘passports’. Anyone who wants to keep their medical history secret can just not disclose whether they have or haven’t had it and can just take tests/sit in the socially distanced area. This is a way to end restrictions for a large proportion of the population early, the alternative is everyone stays restricted for longer. There’s definitely an argument for that in terms of treating everyone equally but that doesn’t seem to be what people are wanting.
     
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    I've taken the stance that if I speak it out often enough (on here, on Twitter, on WhatsApp) then it will definitely happen. Also setting myself up for a massive fall but at least the pubs will be open indoors!
     
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    What’s to stop you from sitting with them? You don’t HAVE to sit in the vaccinated area.
     
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    I just think that what you have described above is the more sensible option. I liken it to driving through Knowlsey Safari Park. If you want to take the risk of having your car destroyed by monkeys, you are welcome to drive down the more dangerous route. If you want to still experience the park, but not have a massive repair bill, you can take the safer option.
     

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