War Declared!

What's the point of the Labour Party?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...5?shareToken=9d5019360062a2ffefbe6dfdda56e96f

 

Matthew Syed's column provides a slightly different perspective but still demands a radical refocus.

 

For the first time in my adult life I didn't vote on Thursday. Admittedly locally we only had the Police and Crime Commissioner, but if me and my wife, absolutely meant to be Labour's new core vote (30s, professionals, degree educated) are apathetic then they are knackered. They've spent 20 years ignoring their traditional voters; now there'll be a bigger swing to the centre to win middle England in a game they can't win, and they'll hemorrhage young voters from its new core to social and economic progressive alternatives.

I'm in no doubt the challenge in uniting red wall and the new core but those in charge are yet to understand the argument, let alone win it.

 

That's some article from the Murdoch empire. They even managed to shoehorn Millibands bacon sandwich image in there.

It's quite interesting because the right wing media is really piling on, and the McCluskeyites are too. Yet interestingly, the results were translated into GE seats and what it showed was Labour parliamentary seats would increase slightly, Lib Dems would increase by quite a bit and the tory majority would pretty much halve.

In many of the areas where tories have done well, turnout has been appalling. Around 30%. So the tory vote isn't especially energised. If thats the case, it might not be as difficult to erode that majority if the alternative starts to have a bit of vision. Not huge amounts of policy announcements, they will be stolen or debunked by the next GE.

I think Starmer has been poor in times the like we've never ever seen and where getting a message out has been especially hard. But what we saw were parties in power did well. SNP increased support. Welsh labour held the Welsh Senedd, just one seat from an absolute majority. And brexit regions followed through in council elections and hartlepool.

Labour gained 2 metro mayors. Sadiq Khan held a significant majority over the tories despite the Evening Standard gutter press doing their routine racist campaigning. The owner, a russian oligarch regularly meets with DePfeffel. Andy Burnham romped to a huge win in Manchester.

It might be dark, but its always darkest before the dawn. if there is a dawn.

Edit: By the way, if I were leading the tories, I'd be tempted to wait until announcing that life was "back to normal" and call a GE to wipe Labour out in its northern heartlands completely before it gets itself together and mounts any form of policy and strategy.

 

He,s probably got rid of her in case theres a leadership challenge, Starmer is very weak, Angela raynor would make a much more challenging opponent for Boris, the tories must be p****ng themselves at the moment, Boris is under more investigations than you could shake a stick at and Labour are still nowhere near in the opinion polls...

 

That's because the media are on his side so bury the investigations

 

My point being if Labour can,t capitalise now, they never will..

 

But surely the wider point is that we have a proven lying and corrupt government, so if we had a neutral media, any opposition would be popular.

The fact that the media will put more effort into dissecting minor problems within the opposition than they do billions of £s of government corruption is surely the important point.

 

To be honest i don,t think that theres anyone in the country that doesn,t believe that Boris is a compulsive liar and the government are corrupt, but they can also see that the Labour party at present looks extremely weak, starmer just doesn,t seem to have anything to offer, just jumping on populist bandwagons and fence sitting on important votes in the commons, i think that Angela raynor with her genuine working class roots would be a much better leader and more appealing to the red wall voters that were lost in the last election. Trust is a massive issue and Corbyn even entertaining the idea that they may not carry out the brexit vote was political suicide considering the red wall areas overwhelmingly voted for it and that trust will take a lot of getting back...

 

Promoted not sacked....

 

That’s not a promotion