As you are all better fans than me I am not going to enter the ballot.

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  1. icer

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    I’m not underestimating the complexity. In fact I thought I had acknowledged that in my first post. The point I’m making is that the club have done their homework and established a plan for accommodating 4500 fans. They have opened a system to select 4500 fans and sell tickets. They also have committed to acknowledging the sales by latest Thursday. I don’t know if tickets will be issued with seat numbers straight off but if not they have days to work it out. If they expect the tickets to be issued with allocated seats by Thursday then they must have confidence in the plan and system employed. I’m stating it’s complex but doable otherwise they wouldn’t have used such a system. I was puzzled to understand why you appear to suggest it’s not doable.
     
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    Being completely honest and transparent I'm not even sure what we're debating/discussing anymore. I even think we might agree.
     
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    #43 Redhelen, May 11, 2021
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    Don't think the groupings matter, you as a single person won't be taking up any more space. And tbh singletons are discriminated against too much!!
     
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    I'm going to get there eventually. Say rows have 28 seats (don't think I don't know what you're doing with your convenient 30). We put a group of 6 in the first 6 seats. Then 2 spare. Then a group of 6. Then 2 spare. Then a group of 6. Then two spare. We've got 4 left. We can't put 6 in those four so they go to waste. And we start on the next row. And do that from row A to row to row MM or whatever it is. In every block. In every stand.

    Look at the blocks in our stands. They're not standardised. Look at the staircases. Look at how it affects the number of seats.

    The most inefficient way to fill our stadium with blocks of supporters from 1 to 6 is to have all blocks being 6. It's the worst advice. The most efficient way is to have some of each configuration, just like we'd get if we let people do what they wanted. And we absolutely need people on their own to get the maximum.

    I know you already realise this otherwise you wouldn't have suggested 30. That wasn't a lucky guess.
     
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  5. icer

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    haha that’s probably true
     
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    Don’t forget to leave the first and last seat of each row empty.
     
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    It's not up there with Don Rowing and Liverpool tickets is it?
    Is this classed as a debacle yet?
    :D
     
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    It's simple only clean bird 5hit off the seats that can be used.
     
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    Eh? Hasn’t the capacity been fixed? I assume it’s been done on the basis of everyone sitting 2 seats apart, so if only individuals applied the capacity would be exactly the same as if everyone applied in groups of 6? Anyway I’m on my own and I’ve applied and omi don’t feel bad about it either.
     
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    I would think that the best configuration for 6 people is 2 ranks of three people i.e. not 6 people in a row. Its better to think of "bubbles" on a map rather than people in a row. The smallest area is a circle, not a square, so think of it as bubbles (as per the received wisdom) with 2 metres between them. Then see how many "bubbles" fit into the seating area....
     
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    #51 Plankton Pete, May 11, 2021
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    Bloody hell mate, I'm not saying that it's 6s or nothing, I'm saying and I'm right about this, that if the choice is 6s or 1s, 6s is more efficient. The end seats need to be left empty by the way.

    Edited in: sadly I counted 3 blocks at random, 30 was about right.
     
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    6 isn’t always more efficient though if the row doesn’t fit neatly into sixes (allowing for the empty seats that are required). You could fill up with 6s and then have 4 empty seats at the end. Are those just going to sit empty and wasted or are you going to put a single person in there to fill in the space (2 empty after the 6, an individual, then final seat empty).
     
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    All I'm saying is 6 is better than 1. 6 isn't the magic number, 6 doesn't work for all blocks in all stadia. 6 is just more efficient than 1. But as neither 6 nor 1 are the only choices, it's a moot point.

    To be completely clear, having groups of 6 will not ergonomically and optimally fill the stadium. But there would be fewer empty seats if the choices were only 6s or only 1s if the decision was only 6s. That's all I'm saying.

    Nurse!
     
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    Ok, I guess the question is: why are you saying that though? It’s not the only decision so it’s such a strange thing to randomly make up and then argue. :D
     
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    That's why I was responding too. Never occurred to me he was suggesting that everyone applying individually isn't a good idea. We'll, duh, course not. :D
     
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    (Takes a dèep breath)

    It was in response to somebody saying it made no difference to capacity if everyone entered individually or in groups of 6.

    For the record, I'm in a 4, which accordingly makes me a hypocrite.
     
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    Hands up if you haven’t got a kin clue what people are arguing about here…
     
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    Me.
     
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