Shouldn't laugh and I hate VAR

In my humble opinion for reasons stated by others....... getridderit!

 

My heart agrees with you but my head says we are too often on the wrong end of offside and penalty decisions and IF we get to the Prem I think we will be glad of VAR.

 

I think the margin of error for offside is in relation to whether they’ve frozen the picture at the correct time. For the tighter falls, where they’re checking the end of someone’s toe, how can they be certain that they’ve frozen the picture the moment the ball has connected / left the boot (not sure what the rule is there)?

That said, based on current interpretation, Chilwell looked off before any lines were drawn.

 

Controversy is controversy and it gets people talking. I’m not sure football could be described as free flowing either, not when goalkeepers take 45 seconds to find the ball and take a goal kick or when players go down to “win” a foul in the last few minutes.

I’d say I’m probably with you on that last part. Barnsley in the premier league without VAR, we wouldn’t get any decisions against the more favourable clubs though.

 

You folks might be right regarding it being a leveller against big club bias. It's an angle I'd never thought of

 

I'd contend it isn't. There are many instances that VAR isn't used when it should be. The people in VAR central have the same biases as the referee on the pitch.

Barnsley just scored a goal and there's a possibility that Woodrow's fingernail was a millimetre offside, should we take a look? Damn right we should.

Chelsea just scored a goal against Barnsley and (insert name of Chelsea forward, is Drogba still there?) could possibly have been ten yards offside, should we take a look? Nah, be reight.

 

Yeah. Entirely hypothetical but looking back on Barnsley Vs Liverpool in 1998. Would VAR have helped against Willard? Like hell it would!

 

The irony of that game is that we got a penalty that wasn't. Which begs the question, was Willard biased or just useless?

The worst decision is the sending off of Morgan. He's ushering the ball out and Owen runs into his arm. If Morgan is up against a normal size forward, rather than an itsy bitsy kitten who is the darling of the press, it's a goal kick and no one batters an eyelid. But he's not, it's Owen.
A very good referee understands the situation, awards a goal kick, makes sure Owen is OK, and explains the decision to him and that's that.

An average referee (most referees) awards a free kick to Liverpool, calls Morgan over, tells him that he's got to be careful, he's not up against Nicoals Anelka who would have got the arm in his midriff, he's up against Michael Owen, so just think on. And that's that.

A terrible referee sends Morgan off.

The second worst decision is our penalty. Hristov dived. I love that he did, because at this point I don't care about fair play, all my morals have gone out of the window, we're being fed to the Wolves and suddenly we've someone in our team playing them at their own game. Many people believe the Hristov signing was a failure but I think he was a star. But that doesn't change the fact that this was a shocking decision.

Only Darren Barnard knows if he tripped the guy running through (I don't even remember who it was). I've watched it a million times and I can't tell. I can't even tell if he touched him or if the Liverpool player dives. If he did touch him, and I'm not saying he did, only Darren Barnard knows if he meant to. I don't care whether he did or he didn't. Darren Barnard was superb for us. What I do know is that even if it was obvious, even if it was blatant, at the time that got you got a booking 99 times out of 100.

The only decision of those 3 that VAR would have overruled was our penalty.

Shez absolutely deserved sending off. He punched someone square in the jaw. Like we all wanted to do. If I could go back in time I would do what I wanted to do at the time, run on the pitch and give Steve McManaman a proper kicking. What was missed, and why the Liverpool goal should not have stood, is that Shez was hauled down on the edge of the box as the freekick came in. I think Willard saw it and didn't give it.

Would VAR have made a difference? Nope. They would have seen Shez dish out a beauty of a left hook.

 

I'm not a referee or an expert on VAR, but if someone asked me how this could be done, I'd propose that a view of the audio alongside the video track would show the exact point the pass was struck.

As for overriding the bias; I've only attended one Barnsley game where VAR was used, and it kept us in the game when a Burnley penalty turned into a Barnsley free kick for offside.

 

The only problem with that CR, is that you’re just moving the problem 2 foot further up the field. The measurements which identify off or on side will still be minuscule .

 

I believe there's an offside check for every goal regardless of team.

 

Personally if a decision can't be made immediately (say within 5 seconds) then original decision should stand.

If they are having to faff about 2 minutes drawing lines to see a toe nail is a millimetre offside, then its fair to say a linesman can'tcall it either.

Maybe introduction of what they do in tennis or other sports. Each team has one challenge. And they lose lose challenge if they get it wrong, maybe

As noted above though, Chilwell was offside before a line was even drawn, and was obvious. Correct decision

 

Absolutely.

 

Fantastic use of VAR. Leicester were almost robbed of their first ever FA cup trophy by a wrong decision.

 

I think the only question for me is the frame they chose to check the offside. Seems like the ball has already left his foot at the time of the image. But the frame before is far too early to check.

Don’t know why they don’t use higher framerate cameras for this.

In my opinion it should be better cameras, along with once the frame where it leaves the foot is determined, check that frame and the frames before and after. Only if the attacker is off in all 3 frames should it be ruled offside.

 

Lolz.

 

Brilliant. Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea.............open mouth, cue cheer from other end......... stop the video.......

 

The most corrupted match I've seen in a long time and I wanted Leicester to win then changed my mind after that decision. I hope these video tech experts get want is coming to them. Sorry but that's my feeling towards them. Top flight football is finished