Texas gun laws

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  1. Indie Red

    Indie Red Well-Known Member

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    and more guns, definitely need more guns.
     
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    Do you admit that America has a seriously out of control firearms problem?
     
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    No matter what I say, you aren't going to engage with what I'm saying or really take it in.
    You're just going to stick with the fact that more guns = more gun deaths, I don't dispute this. In the same way that more cars = more car accidents. More bathtubs = more children drowning in bathtubs and so on.

    America has a mental health problem, a lot of the world does. It's a society problem.
    You look at mass shootings
    1930s: 3
    1940s: 3
    1950s: 3

    Those numbers are back from when guns were easier to purchase and when guns were more regularly advertised.
    Someone on here said that this year alone there's been 230.. I'm not sure if that's right or not but either way the numbers are a lot higher today.

    It would be perfect if we could live in a place where we didn't need keys and could just leave your doors unlocked and love eachother... But we don't live there.
     
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    If you want people to engage with what you're saying, you need to say something. Not just list a list of unrelated facts (which presumably lead you to a conclusion - they haven't led anyone else to the same)
     
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  6. Terry Nutkins

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    The more cars = more accidents is the single most bonkers argument in the history of mankind.

    Statistically it’s not comparable and I don’t think guns have positively impacted my life at all. I don’t need one.

    if I did t have my car I wouldn’t have a job, or be able to see my family, or go to watch Barnsley.
     
  7. Red

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    In all honesty, I'm not against people owning guns (us Brits can own guns too), but the US policy of guns-for-all is unbelievably dangerous considering, by your own admission, that the US is struggling to get to grips with mental health.

    I'd also argue that mental health is a huge issue over here as well, but due to our strict gun laws the chances of someone struggling to manage their mental health buying a gun are slim to none. Maybe one of the reasons we aren't regularly reporting multiple shootings?
     
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    So because something hasn't positively impacted YOUR life that's all that matters?
    I think that's the single most bonkers argument in the history of mankind.

    @RedVesp Yours is the first fair comment on here that's responded to me so I thank you, that's reasonable enough.
     
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    I’d argue that guns have more negatively impacted people’s lives than positively. Source: 19,380 who lost their lives to gun related crime in America in 2020.
     
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    Humans don’t need guns to survive. Fact

    You could argue humans don’t need cars but we’d have to go back 100 years in pretty much everything we do.

    What do you need a gun for?
     
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  11. Red

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    It's a tough arguement to make that one, there are loads of dangerous things we don't need but are still acceptable. Cigs, booze, sky diving...

    People like guns, I get it, but they're not for everyone and the only way the US will ever resolve this situation is by introducing strict federal laws, some state-specific legislation could only be described as dangerous and negligent.
     
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    More total ignorance. There are certain rural areas where you absolutely 100% need a gun for survival and protection.
    Anywhere there could be bears, wolves, alligators/crocodiles, mountain lions, all kinds of snakes etc near your home, you absolutely need a gun.
     
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  13. Red

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    We have shotgun licenses in this country for similar purposes. Admittedly foxes aren't as dangerous as bears, but the purpose is the same.
     
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    Exactly man, all kinds of critters I could've mentioned and things that are just damage related. Hogs in Texas cause something like $52million worth of agriculture damage per year. Guns are extremely essential.
     
  15. Red

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    Essential for some people, not all though. I think that's the main problem, no one has an issue with a farmer or game keeper owning a rifle or a shotgun, but no random dude needs an AR-15.
     
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    But you do t live in those areas.

    If a farmer or ranch owner needs a gun for work, have one. Have a license.

    I’ve been to many cities in the US, can you name me one that has a problem with roaming bears and alligators munching up humans please?

    I’ll ignore the snakes, Samuel L Jackson has got that one covered.
     
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    So, in rural Alabama or Alaska you might have an argument for guns - although only an absolute mentalist would try shooting at snakes.

    But most guns are owned in the cities, where the population of wolves, bears, crocodile and mountain lions is roughly zero outside of zoos.
     
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    Actually.... theres a plan.... arming bears and alligators ;-)
     
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    'Armed bears and alligators' that film was on Sci fi channel t'other day
     
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    I'm still for guns being owned by anyone capable, including city people if they so choose. The rural thing wasn't my "argument" I was just pointing out that they are needed to survive in certain places. Hope that helps.

    Also "most guns are owned in the cities" ...Yes because the populations are higher.

    @Terry Nutkins The ignorance is nonstop with you man it's quite astounding. You just told me I don't live in those areas. Okay first off, Southern Utah does have bears, rattlesnakes, mountain lions, gila monsters, coyotes etc.
    And second of all some of the places I frequently visit, places like New Harmony, Enterprise, Toquerville and others are extremely rural places. Get a clue.
    Not that it matters in my "argument" anyway.
     
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