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    - Number of people in hospital falling.
    - 75% of adults vaccinated and 50% fully vaccinated.
    - Deaths at nigh on zero.

    So obviously the logical next step to that is that travel abroad is effectively completely banned - citing a ‘variant’ which the WHO deny the existence of and seems to have been invited by the Daily Mail as far as anyone can tell, and the BBC clearly
    grooming everyone for a delay (and huge watering down) to the release of measures on June 21st.

    Is the penny dropping as to the consequences on future generations of accepting the lockdown and this ongoing totalitarian control yet?

    Meanwhile the ‘opposition’ peddle a narrative that border controls still aren’t tough enough and we need to do more to stop these dirty foreigners coming in and bringing in ‘God knows what’ variants (thank you Emily Thornberry). Call me old fashioned but that’s just a little bit hard right in rhetoric for the taste of this - now former - Labour Party supporter.
     
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    ‘Dirty Foreigners’ really. Aye it’s all Labour’s fault again
     
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    So now that we are still not allowed to go to hardly any country in the world,I am not one of them can someone please tell me why the hell are athletes still being allowed to go to Japan that is rife with covid,the public there don’t want it so why is it still happening.And please don’t say they will be checked regularly,the paying customer would be paying hundreds of pounds for tests.
     
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    Stop moving the goalposts!

    90% of the age group who make up about 95% of deaths are protected.

    We have to get back to life.
     
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    12k ish deaths for a population of 125 million.

    We can only hope of leadership like that.
     
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    No, it's the Tories fault. Aided and abetted by a feckless, useless opposition.
     
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    What an absolute kick in the nuts for the travel industry. Pre-pandemic regarded as one of the strongest travel economies in the world. Post pandemic will be lucky to survive. I think it was Simon Calder who said earlier, '3rd June 2021. The day the travel industry in the UK died'.

    Completely misleading use of data and a media that support their every move. Why? Because they're loving these restrictions and don't want them to end. We're consuming more media than ever before underpinned by the government regularly commissioning advertising that they don't want to lose. It doesn't feel like anybody has the back of the British people right now yet we're still happy to roll over and accept it.
     
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    It may be a kick in the nuts for the aviation industry. But on the plus side. a massive boost to the British holiday resorts.( Helping our own economy.) Who are doing a roaring trade at the mo. Some resorts booked up till October.
     
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    Apart from the fact that places on the South Coast have had days where they haven't been able to open due to staff shortages (I'm not even exaggerating). Go figure that if you close an industry down for 12 months that some of the people that worked in it might have gone and found themselves new jobs or just left the country.

    Also, there's a roaring trade to the untrained eye, and then there's ridiculous restrictions that mean you're not turning over a profit.
     
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    And ramped the prices up.
     
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    It's now beyond mental. On the day they announced zero covid deaths (I actually doubt that, there tends to be a lag over weekends and bank holidays, but it was double figures at most, and low double figures) we got people pretending to be Scientists calling for tougher measures. There are millions of people dying from diseases we haven't been screening, millions waiting for operations, and we want to perpetuate this fc*king nonsense. It's coming to a head this. It really is.
     
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    This is indeed a landmark day. I find myself agreeing with many aspects of posts by Tyketical Masterstroke AND Loko the Tyke on the same evening!

    Why is this dreadful government doing this? Two thoughts suggest themselves to me. Both are simply possible suggestions, not fact.

    1. I wonder if they are dreading the thought of millions of people heading off to the sun in the school holidays after a difficult 18 months and possibly bringing back further infections/variants. As rates fall elsewhere, and as more and more people are fully or partially vaccinated, this seems a very cautious position to take in the face of a travel industry which must surely be on it's knees. The places currently out of bounds include many destinations which have infection rates way below our own. There is an argument to be made around this - although not a winning one, in my view. But it is utterly spineless not to state that that is the aim (if such is the case) because it would make you electorally unpopular.

    2. I hope it's not the case, but I can't expunge from my mind the possibility that some sort of political game-playing is going on, whereby our brexit-loving government are eager to withhold our travel dollar from our European neighbors as some sort of pawn in an ongoing chess game about future relations. I'd like to think they couldn't be that small, but would you honestly rule it out?
     
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    I can’t remember where I read it now but I saw that there aren’t any where near enough border agents to process everyone going on holiday this year due to extra Brexit red tape.
     
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    Or the lake district where hotels bars and restaurants have "staff wanted" signs up all over the region.

    Staff sacked last lockdown (majority from Eastern Europe) so they returned back home.

    Hardly any furloughed so now the doors are opened again businesses either have poor untrained staff or no staff.
     
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    What a post by the way. Bang on the money.
     
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    Quite so, but that brings up the question of why there would have to be such a deterrent testing regime for those travellers who are already fully vaccinated. It's all far from transparent. But lamentably, it all comes back round in circles because the majority gifted them to "get brexit done" gives them carte blanche until 2024.

    (2023 actually, because Boris is going to repeal the FTPA and go in early 2023 before the tax rises kick in.)
     
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    80% increase of cases of this Indian variant in under a week in the Uk.
     
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    From what base?
     
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    I’m really confused by all this. I don’t watch much mainstream propaganda, sorry, ‘news’, as they lie about pretty much everything, so sometimes things do pass me by.

    So Portugal are now dropped from this ‘green zone’? Spain has never been in this zone to my knowledge but there’s hundreds of thousands of British holidaymakers there anyway? So what’s the point? Apologies if I’m being really stupid.
     
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    But we’re allowing people from India to come here.

    Just not allowing me and you to go there and come back.
     

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