June 21st

2-4 weeks initially/in the first instance ect

 

This guys is off his head, I'm afraid that we will see with the Vaccine about 4% of people will get ill still from catching COVID, we should keep an eye on the hospitalisations and deaths, if they start to rise at a comparable rate as during the previous wave then I don't see any choice but to lockdown again - we should probably delay the 21st June for 2 weeks to be certain if the link is broken and if we don't see that kind of rise then we have to live with it, zero deaths is impossible, 400 people die every day from cancer.

 

That just looks like a case of Talk radio hand picking a guest that has the polar opposite view to Hartley-brewer, just so they can have a row.

Not sure what good that’ll do.

 

Honestly mate, I don't know. I think the picture at the moment is unclear. There are rumours of the vaccines having less efficacy than hoped with the Indian variant. There are also rumours of a relative increase in the number of children and younger people going to hospital , but this is all unsubstantiated. If either of those are correct, it could be a lot longer. If there are rubbish, then it could be shorter. But tbh I'd rather be certain than chance it. The uptick in cases is worrying though - positive cases have doubled in the last fortnight - although it is looking at the moment like this is not going forward into hospital admissions but the lag is always 2-3 weeks. If hospital admissions and deaths stay low for another 2-3 weeks then I think we are probably clear *at this time*.

I honestly hope it isn't any longer. I actually want to get back to travelling for work (even if the wife doesn't!) - I was supposed to spend the last 18 months flying out to Guernsey weekly for work and would like to actually spend some of the summer there I'd also rather not have to spend 6 hours each way on a train/plane/airport wearing a face mask to do that - or have to take multiple tests per week for a 2 night trip...

 

There will always be variants. Always.

 

The lower efficacy against the Indian variant is more than a rumour.

https://www.crick.ac.uk/news/2021-0...g-the-delta-variant-first-discovered-in-india

At present hospitalisations are from infections which were caught when we had 2,000 cases per day. We now have 6,000 cases per day.

 

A 'case' shouldnt be counted if the person is under 50

 

Thank you Dr Sunlighter. So there aren't any medically vulnerable people under 50 now then.

 

All the vulnerable have been jabbed pretty much.

'cases' are essentially irrelevant

 

I could name you half a dozen on this website

 

It took you 4 minutes to change your mind there. Cases above 50 years of age should be counted and then no cases should be counted at all.

 

Perhaps I should have made clear that most 'cases' are healthy youngsters

 

Rubbish, absolute rubbish.

 

But if the opposite is true and people do what every single one of the almost 120 billion people to have lived have done then what? If the vaccine that the world's greatest minds have developed doesn't work or doesnt always work then what? The options are surely either remove restrictions and accept that humans d not have immortality or declare permanent restrictions that will last forever. If the vaccine doesn't do a lot then whether we lock down for one week or one decade the end result is that it will still exist and people will still die.

If however it does work as expected then nigh on every vulnerable person is vaccinated

 

It really isn't, but whatever you like

 

People want this lockdown to carry on? I'll go one step further and say that's b0llox & you know it is.

 

Everyone wants it to end...you're just trying to discredit the people who don't think the timing of lifting all the restrictions is right.

 

Of course it isn't. There are a number of people on this bulletin board that will make every argument possible no matter how empty it is in order to promote lockdown.

 

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Only 13 days to go. so.

 

That's not true.