[Official Site] MEDIA INTERN OPPORTUNITIES

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  1. Spooky

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    Yes but then it gets into contracts and everything. Unpaid interns means they can walk away at any time and as they’ve spelled out in the article, they’ve had proven stories of people going on and bettering themselves in their career.
     
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    If it’s not many hours then it won’t cost much to pay them.
     
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    Ohhh working for free is cool then.

    Sorry thanks for clarifying.
     
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    these look a lot longer term than a week though. I just dont see why a football club who can happily play players 10K or more per week cant pay at least minimum wage for the roles adverised.
     
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    Seconded.
     
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    Just because people go on to do better things it doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be paid for their work now. John Stones has gone on to play for England but we still paid him whilst he played for us.
     
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    I also did a year’s placement as part of my final year at university. Also unpaid. The university fees paid for my petrol/train tickets.

    It’s completely fine and just standard practice. Those two unpaid internships helped me to get me my first job and where I am today.

    In both those internships, I wasn’t running the place. I was being looked after by more established professionals who gave me invaluable hints and tips that still help me to this day.

    There’s a lot of people getting up in arms over nothing.
     
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    £19.35 a week. We can't find £19.35 a week?

    I understand interns, sadly they are massively used in the media and design sectors. A creative agency I used once appointed them by the bucket load and would replace them every 6 months. Needless to say, once I found out this was the case, I withdrew commercial agreements with them.

    A fixed term employment contract is a piece of p*ss, and wouldn't be an issue given how complex playing contracts are.

    Giving people "opportunity" can also be seen as exploiting free labour, i would imagine all the more so by dyed in the wool socialists. £19.35 a week when we're paying others thousands of pounds a week seems grim in the extreme. But maybe that's just my moral compass.
     
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    Mi lad an intern at Sheffields Children's hospital as part of his bio medical science course.
     
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    Anyone remember a couple of years back an ad to join the physio team.?

    Was about £20k per year and you needed more qualifications than the chief medical scientist to be considered.
     
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    Will did a year’s placement in his third year of uni, fully paid, then did his final year back at uni. I did unpaid placements during my four years but they were arranged directly by the uni as part of my course, not schools advertising for unpaid unqualified teachers billed as a great opportunity.
     
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    I’ll just put this out there. I was an apprentice at oakwell for 2 years and I also never got paid a single penny. At that time sports apprenticeships didn’t have to be paid. Yet plasterers etc were paid 120 quid a week.

    The club at the time claimed they didn’t have funds or any government funding to pay me. Poor.
     
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    I guess its easy to oversimplify this - if its genuinely part of an education and expected as part of a degree course or similar for a short term few hours I can see it may be in both parties interest for an arrangement like this especially if the club is providing on the job training as part of the role. To me it still seems wrong though and it definitely discriminates in favour of those from wealthier backgrounds. The whole intern idea is wide open to abuse and an opportunity for free labour from unscrupulous companies. I am not saying BFC are one of them, I am sure they are not but it still seems a bit wrong to me
     
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    They'll pay bus fare..
     
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    The difference between this and uni arranged is that the uni does visits to check that the students aren’t being exploited and provides them with support throughout as needed. With this you’re on your own.
     
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    "Billionaires"...... unwilling or unable to afford £19.35 a week. Not a good look, is it?
     
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    "not only should you be happy to do the work for nowt, you should be champing at the bit to do extra work for nowt"

    This is poor from the club. No matter what carrot is being dangled people should be properly remunerated for their time and work. It's particularly egregious given the sums in question are so laughably small for a football club.
     
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    Your Club. Your town. Work for free.
     
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    Be Barnsley. Be proud. Be skint.
     
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    Regardless of the future opportunities, I just don't think this is the right thing. Same debate came up about the position at the BBC and the lack of minorities in that industry - point being that the jobs all go to those who have had a leg up in some way - and that includes being privileged enough to do unpaid work experience.

    If one uni student has to choose between doing unpaid work at BFC or doing a shift in a local supermarket to pay the bills, while the other has financial support from mum and dad and can take as much unpaid work as they want, who is best placed to get the Sunderland, UK Athletics, UK Golf jobs?

    It's such a small sum of money for the club, but could make a huge difference for the individuals.
     

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