What the advert should read as: billionaire men seek people to work for them for free for a few hours a week. Dress it up however we want but that's what it is, it's billionaires wanting free labour. It would be a fantastic experience for a 19 year old wannabe footballer to play for Barnsley but they wouldn't be going up to a potential player and telling them that they will be paid in experience
Semantics, it's free labour and it's just wrong. We are a multi million pound club owned by billionaires and we can't even pay a few quid in return for work? That just stinks. They say that it's experience but isn't another way of looking at it that it's an apprenticeship but without pay?
What about all the footballers who coach at clubs at varying levels for the experience and in order to earn their badges? Do we pay them?
I dunno, do we? If not we probably should. But what's that got to do with this anyway? I'm amazed people would engage in whataboutery to justify the club not paying students for working.
It's less whataboutery than an equivalent practice that's been going on for years that nobody gives two hoots about because the word intern isn't mentioned. We don't pay people for education in this country, rightly or wrongly. I just don't see the big hoo-haa because in the fourth or more year of the club offering this opportunity they've suddenly used the word intern in the advert.
But we do don't we. I know plenty of apprentices and they all get paid money.for some reason the law stipulates a minimum wage for an apprentice but if you change the word apprentice to intern it's free labour
let's leave it to the potential interns - if they think doing some unpaid work experience is going to help them in their careers later on then that's up to them. I think it's a brilliant scheme and I guess the Club will be inundated with applicants.
In this particular instance, and certainly not in the case of all unpaid internships, particularly those that are full or almost full-time, and aren't designed around supplementing a particular degree or course, I think the "intern" gets far more out of this than the club. Far more learning for example than an apprentice plasterer does in the first 12 months of his apprenticeship humping bags of plaster round, cleaning buckets and trowels and been sent to the wholesaler for a long stand. I don't really have anything else to say on it and I'm going to watch Hungary beat Germany and France batter Portugal so we get Hungary in the last 16.
This is pretty much the top and bottom of it. If people want to do it, they'll do it. Up to them, init.
Similarly do you support the abolishment of the minimum wage? After all if someone on the dole is willing to work 40 hours a week for £100 then that's up to them isn't it?
I don't get that? In the case of some internships I'd agree, but someone from the club themselves has said there'll be financial help available. I don't see why anyone wouldn't be able to do this if it's only a few hours a week and it runs in tandem with their uni course? You can't say all internships are bad, same as you can't say all zero hours contracts are bad. What you get are good companies and bad companies. Anyway, I've got a match to watch
Posted above but reposting Do you think unpaid work schemes disproportionately benefit "interns" who can afford to work for nothing? Do you think unpaid work schemes incentivise the exploitation of "free" labour, on the part of employers?
Do you think unpaid work schemes disproportionately benefit "interns" who can afford to work for nothing?
I'd suggest you speak a large cross section of interns rather than ask me. From the few examples that Whitey posted earlier, it seems that an internship with BFC is a massively positive experience. But apparently views of the people directly affected by this are irrelevant. All I can give you is my interpretation of internships, which I have.
In that case, just pay them then. Also, if its the Portugal v France game you're watching, then this ref must be an intern!
You can dress it up however you want - asking people to work for nothing is wrong. Justifying it probably more so. That's before you start discussing the fact it excludes people who come from the type of community we/it represents. I get the arguments, but fundamentally if you feel like you need to cover U23 games etc then you should pay someone to do it. Can't believe there's folk pretending otherwise.