Freedom day update.

Likelihood of 1,000,000 under 50s getting covid in the next year high, likelihood of 1,000,000 under 50s being in a car crash extremley low.

I'm not advocating a continuation of lockdown, just pointing out how meaningless your stats are.

 

Well it might be understandable to you; but my kids think it’s important to get the jab for ‘everyone’s’ benefit.
So; whilst I see their point of view, I also see the point of view of tax dodgers. Perfectly entitled to put yourself first, but I’m perfectly entitled to consider you a tw@ for doing so

 

If vaccinated the chances of becoming seriously ill are very small, exercise choice by all means but if you don't feel safe stay at home.

Works both ways.

 

How? I’m not a risk to others. I’m happy to be courteous to others so they can feel safe. Are you suggesting all of us ‘nice’ people should stay home so everyone who doesn’t give a fc uk can go about their business without bothering us?

Are you suggesting I should stay off the road so that drunk drivers can have a free for all?

it’s a disgustingly selfish attitude that is more prevalent than I’d ever have imagined. And without any shame.

 

You just know it doesn't. Those who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons should, of course, be exempted. Those that are too frightened to have it (or have been reading/listening to crackpots), but are happy to pass whatever tiny risk there is in being vaccinated onto the rest of society, should do the honourable thing and exempt themselves from social activities. Only fair. Oh, and if the current Johnson gamble misfires as badly as some predict, expect increasingly draconian measures to be introduced.

 

The chances of becoming seriously ill with the vaccine are tiny. I've had the vaccine and I have no issue with people who haven't had it being around me.
Also find it very troublesome that you have already decided that people who have the vaccine are "nice" and those that don't "don't give a fc uk"
What a divisive outlook on society that is, i find it genuinely staggering we have managed to whip up fear to the point of people demanding others are vaccinated to make them feel safe.

 

What he's suggesting is that he should be allowed to do whatever the f**k he wants regardless of the impact on anyone else.
He wants to live in a society that has never and can never exist where individuals take no responsibility for the welfare of others.
Can we just designate a huge area in the middle of the Gobi desert as somewhere where all these libertarians can go and live in total freedom and an inevitable descent into self serving chaos and anarchy?

 

As I just said I'm staggered that people are so afraid they are thinking like this. Maybe I'm just a selfish horrible person. I just personally belive people shouldn't essentially be placed under house arrest if they aren't willing to have a vaccine. I'm not sure where such a policy would lead us to.
Clearly others disagree and I doubt anyone will be convinced otherwise.

 

How does not being able to attend purely optional events equate to being placed under house arrest?

Very odd that.

 

That's where we are now? if you don't accept that people who don't want a vaccine should be locked in their homes you clearly don't care about others.

I wonder how many people making such statements have been out when ill in the past and passed along a infection that has led to someone's death.

 

Because I was replying to this.

So not odd, a conversation around a premise someone had suggested. Or is that odd?

 

Infectious diseases that caused death in the elderly and fat didn't exist before 2020.

 

Why do you presume we’re scared?

I just want to get back to normal, and my maths is good enough to understand that can’t happen whilst there’s millions of adults choosing not to be vaccinated.

We’re ‘nice’ because whilst not at personal risk; we see the benefits for society in doing the right thing.

People who put their own needs before society are cu nts. Whether anti vaxxers, vandals, litter bugs or tax dodgers.

That’s not a Covid thing, if you’d have asked me 20 years ago I’d have said the same thing.

 

1 million under 50? I probably know of about 4 people that have had it in the last year. These stats are incredible. Are you sure?

 

Yeah it's odd, as no one suggested house arrest, except you.

 

Agreed, there was no death before covid.

 

The uncomfortable truth is that everyone has, although to admit that doesn't sit well with the holier than thou attitude of some.

 

The ONS estimated that 1 in 95 had it last week in England (not uk)....

Which roughly works out at just shy of 600k.

So it's very feasible 1 million under 50 in a year. Yes

 

That must be it

 

But like he's saying and I share the same view point having been vaccinated myself it doesn't bother me been around people who haven't been vaccinated and I don't look at them asif they are selfish or whatever its there choice.
Like obese people putting themselves more at risk with covid obviously its there fault with there lifestyle choices maybe they should excersize more and eat less then they would be less at risk but that's there problem and good luck to them.