The 100

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  1. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    Maybe there could be a way to negate this, given that it's going to be a completely different format.
     
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    Also, what would you do with the boundaries? They are brought in by quite a distance for the womens game, if they are left at that every ball would be a 6, but if you pushed them out the women wouldnt hit hardly 6's.. some yes, but not many.
     
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    Two different coloured boundary ropes?
     
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    Mido Well-Known Member

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    I’ve got a lot of respect for you Helen but this thread has turned completely bonkers.
     
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    Didcot Red Well-Known Member

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    Imget your point but his has happened to many former Yorkshire favourites, Brennan being the latest of a long list including "our own" Dickie Bird.
     
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    Have you done an expressive writing course at some point?
     
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    In the midst of all these covid threads and devisiveness of modern life, a bit of bonkers might be just what we all need
     
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    Not sure the two are that comparable personally. Crease to crease in cricket is 18m, tennis is 24. Plus in tennis you can stand as far behind the base line as you want. Thats a huge difference. The ball in cricket is reaching you a lot quicker. And it's a hard ball. Height might also be a factor. I suspect the women are generally smaller in height, so the ball will naturally be reaching them higher. Could be the difference between a chest ball and a throat ball. To compensate for that you would have to consistently bowl a fuller length. I would be seriously concerned about safety. I suspect the adjustments you would have to make, to make it both safe and competitive would be significant, e.g. maximum pace, batting order, adjusted boundaries. Is that moving the game forward for women? Dunno...
     
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    There is a BBC podcast called No Balls presented by Kate Cross and Alex Hartley, they were asked about mixed cricket and they both said they didn't see the benefits to it due to the pace men bowl at and the additional power at hitting they have.
     
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    I can't see mixed cricket going forward. Some extremely valid points about the physical differences around strength, height, speeds.

    You can imagine issues in fielding, returning the ball, bowling, catching, batting, running between the wickets.

    How would you mix the sides? A mandatory quota? x numbers of batters and bowlers per side?

    Would male bowlers ease off being so aggressive against a female batter? Would a male batsman go easy on a female bowler? Would they be targetted more? What would be the psychological effect if they were targetted and they couldn't contribute to the team effort.

    How would the dressing room work? Would they need two per side? Would women have to change in the same environment as men? Would that cause other issues?

    I'm all for equality, but cricket is a sport where physical attributes play a large part and in some cases can override skill and technique.
     
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    I'm an old-school cricket fan, who loves the 3 forms of the game we had, and all for different reasons. When this 100 thing was announced, I decided I would hate it, mainly because it felt "manufactured".

    The thing is, I really enjoyed the match last night. Sure, the on-screen graphics were some of the worst I have ever seen(and I hope whoever thought them up shits a hedgehog), but the cricket itself was impressive. Because there was no-one with freakish strength or height, the women had to use timing, technique and accuracy to score their runs/bowl, and it really opened my eyes.

    One last thing. Whenever the subject of women's sport comes up on here, I mention that a big wish of mine is that a woman's team sport really breaks into the mainstream so my daughter has someone to look up to like I did with my heroes. This feels like it could be a stepping stone to that happening. Only thing I'd change is linking the men's and woman's teams into one league. So rather than having a mixed-sex team, have gender-specific teams, but all coached by the same people and their results combined to decide their position in the league. This way, the powers that be and the coaching teams will be motivated to coach both sexes the same, rather than who brings in the most money.
     
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    Great post.
     
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    I don't think that would work because men bowling would get the women out easily and it would be all over in a half an hour. 7,395 was a decent crowd but tickets were really cheap and it's a new concept people were curious about. I doubt crowds will hold up as the tournament goes on. If they want equality they could at least have the boundary rope where the men have it.
     
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    That seems to express Steve's opinion very well.
     
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    I can't agree with that, I'm sorry to say. You have to give the players something that is within their grasps. There was only a handful of 6's scored anyway, so by putting the boudries out further you may as well take that score out of their game. They don't have the freakish strength that has developed into the men's game, are usually not as tall, and so have to use smaller, lighter bats, making it even more of a challenge to clear a boundary rope setback.

    And at the end of the day, as long as the boundaries are the same for all the women, it doesn't matter, really.
     
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    Totally agree.

    And from I’ve seen in local junior cricket this year, we’ve some outstanding girls coming through. Some real talent.

    The skill level is no different to the boys, just sometimes the boys have a little more on the physical side, which is to be expected.
     
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    You mean Tim Bresnan, presumably? It’s not the same though is it. I’m talking about Yorkshire players playing for one of the other invented teams, for the money no doubt, then coming back to Yorkshire to play for us when they are allowed to. Transferred to another county permanently is different altogether
     
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    It does feel weird to see Root playing for Notts and YJB playing for the Welsh team. But at the end of the day, is it much different to them going to the IPL, Big Bash, etc at different times of the year, before returning and playing a handful of matches for Yorkshire?

    Personally, I don't know why they couldn't have made this competition with more teams, to cover more of the UK(Durham, for example), which would have seen more players stay and play for their counties equivalent(Ben Stokes would have been one of their designated players, meaning one of Root of Young Johnny could have represented the Yorkshire equivalent).
     
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    Yes spell checker does some odd things but I ought to check the spell checker myself.

    I think that the established England players were spread about the franchises, probably due to the odd way they are paid with limited numbers of players getting top dollar. I think one or two from each franchise bet £100,000. The foot soldiers are only getting £20,000. I'm not sure how much the women are getting.

    I am sure YJB would love to be in the Headingley based outfit if he was guaranteed the money. That said he will only be playing a couple of games as he has been recalled for the Test series against India.
     
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    Who’s tuning in tonight then? Should be a belter with some big hitters on show.
     
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