It’s hard, for sure, but it’s been a consistent message from PHE that transmissions have mainly been in care homes, hospitals and education. I think in that order. Hospitality has never really wavered from contributing to around 3% of cases. Not sure what you mean on not using the app. My experience from where I’ve been is that the app is in full use and it’s a reassurance that encourages people to go back out to hospitality venues. When cases were growing we were one million tests a week ahead of our European and Atlantic neighbours. Just on the numbers game alone you’d expect us then to have more cases.
I’m trying to say that the degree of restrictions and lockdowns appears to have zero effect on the number of infections when looking at the empirical data. See also Texas, Sweden and Florida.
I'm talking about a sample of one really mate on the app thing - those who have been happiest taking 'risks' have also been those who have denied the value or decided not to engage with the ask for using the app. Anyway, I'm gonna bed. F.ck knows why I decided to reply. This is why I've binned off twitter - far too deep innit.
People cannot blame the huge drop in cases in a drop in testing as we are still doing a million a day.
But as we get further and further on, the tests are done on the same people multiple times a week, or people taking the tests in order to go to events. That surely skews the results at least a little bit.
Possible reasons for reduction: 1) Delta variant doing classical Gompertz curve exactly in line as it did in India independent of restrictions - because lockdowns don’t work. 2) Schools being off reduces the number of cases. Possibly, but surely SAGE knew that when they said 100k infections per day and also junior schools are still in this week. 3) Reduction in mask wearing drives huge reduction in cases because masks actually drive cases up not down? Seems far fetched, but would fit the bill - and also is in line with huge increase in cases we saw in 2020 after mask wearing was mandated. Can’t be ruled out. 4) Reducing restrictions allows people to exercise independent discretion and personal responsibility driving cases down - I would love this to be true but we’ll see. Smart money is on number 1.
Do you not think there But that person getting COVID and possible long term complications wouldn't be any better.I'd 100% have loved normal life to continue, I didn't get any furlough pay second lockdown but preventing the spread and more deaths had to be the main priority imo.
Given that case numbers throughout the last 18 months have followed schools opening and closing pretty consistently, my money is on 2. Along with testing going to people every week that don't really need to be tested.
Helen I’m out of this now. I’ve said my piece and apologised for some of the things I said. I would appreciate it if that was the end of it for me. As the ultimate woke queen I would appreciate it if you could respect my wishes.
You’re right, I definitely haven’t posted about this every day for the last 18 months. No one on here really knows what I think on this subject, I’ve kept my powder dry.
That must be nice. I haven't felt like we've done the right thing once in the last 18 months. I'm sure you'll continue blaming me for every government decision though.
Might read this later. Please tell me people aren't throwing figures around because 9 out of ten chance nobody listened to sky news before all this
There's a few things happening here: 1. No school testing is occurring at the moment 2. In the last week, 10% have deleted the app and of the remainder, 20% have turned off contact tracing 3. The spike in the last month was exaggerated by fan transmission during Euro 2020
You really still think that the Tories were the ones that supported a lockdown? You couldn't be further from the truth. It's extremely clear that the Tories wanted nothing even close to what they ended up implementing, never mind anything close to what I wanted them to do. Thankfully the experts intervened and put pressure on the government to at least do something. Still nothing close to what they should have done, but something. You're the one that supported Tory policies.
Let me ask you this, if Labour were in government, do you think the Tories would have supported a lockdown then? I'm 100% sure that Labour would have locked down and the Tories would have been against it all the way.
Ok. Sorry. You’re correct. Let me change my response: Nope. Not your fault. You just wrongly backed the Tories and Labour’s policy.
You didn't answer my question, do you think the Tories would have supported a lockdown if Labour were in power?
The app doesn’t contribute to cases does it? Testing by day hasn’t seen a decline. We only had four games with significant crowds. I don’t recall anything suggesting it caused spikes?