Social care

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  1. Brush

    Brush Well-Known Member

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    So it looks like the very people who can afford it the least will pay the highest proportion of their income. The government is a complete disgrace.

    Apparently £15bn is needed to sort it out, maybe they should ask Dido Harding for the £35bn back that she wasted on a track and trace system that never properly worked.

    Johnson is beyond contempt.
     
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    Wanting to up NI, end the triple lock, extend the coronavirus act until next spring, petrol risen past 1.30 a litre and empty shop shelves because of a driver shortage. We have a **** show in charge of the country.
     
  3. Abruzzo Red

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    I admire your restraint :D:D
     
  4. Jimmy viz

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    Tories innit. We get what we voted for.
     
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    :rolleyes:Makes you think, well makes me think. I’m currently, the youngest tenant on my yard in Wentworth. I do the bins for 4 houses & as much else as possible without being able to drive. having had a interesting, creative, but chequered career, I know my pension will be worth f all. Have no brain for finance etc..London has my money.. Definitely will die alone, resigned to that.
    & seeing, this is not a great place to grow old by yourself.
    Point is, everyone has a story & a situation. & there’s too many gaps in the boards. :rolleyes:
     
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  6. Marlon

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    Fekin media distorting a the facts !!!
    Channel four used three examples of a bloke earning 22k a woman earning 50k and then a pensioner on 50k WTAF how is that proportionate??
    How the fek can they state an average pensioner is on 50k??.
    They should be held accountable these fact stirring ******** !most pensioners are on the breadline ! Stop broadcasting **** and put the truth.
    Whatever the ins and outs of this debate stop twisting facts are not on 50k s year so ******** you twisting **** stirring lovely people .
     
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    22k and 50k aren't indicative of the average wage, either. The average pensioner won't be affected since they don't pay NI.
     
  8. Marlon

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    Most don’t get enough to pay NI and what have they paid all their lives ? Our share has been paid
     
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    It really, really hasn't. The average cost of residential care is £2800 per month, I doubt most current pensioners paid that in a year, probably two. Typical of the worst generation ever to want everything for nothing.
     
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    We get what they voted for.
     
  11. Marlon

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    My generation paid the pensions to people who had never contributed and didn’t complain .
    Some from this generation do nothing but complain and will probably be the first in the queue when in need .
    Not all of them as some are caring and see the bigger picture but the ones complaining are usually first ones with hands out .
    Our contributions will be compatible with today’s contributions and
     
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    I didnt, wouldnt and never will vote for those rats
     
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    But it will be their children that benefit through inheritance not them .
     
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    It appears the chickens have come home to roost . Derisory birth rates from the 1960s onwards has left us with a shortfall of workers and an excess of aged adults . They knew about this all along . I remember the 80s when it was referred to as the " pension ticking time bomb " but did nothing , in fact they continued to reduce taxes . Meantime we were told low birth rates was a sign of how advanced we were as a society and that we should all concentrate on our careers . What a joke . I would add throwing more money at the problem may not necessarily help . Sure more money may make the care sector a more attractive destination for the younger generations but your diverting from more productive endeavours within society which long term may leave an even larger shortfall in revenue . There's no quick fix to this I'm afraid .
     
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    Me either but enough pillocks did so it is what it is.
     
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    did you pay for going to university. Have no chance of buying a house and pay for social care. Why should someone with a family on minimum wage pay for social care for say someone living in a million quid house
     
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    The original aim of the social security was that everyone paid as per their earning/social status etc . Which at the start the richest we’re paying in the most in monetary terms but per capita still very well if compared to the working man .
    It was a system where everyone could draw as it in theory gave the richest a stake in the welfare state whereby they could draw out as much as the lowest beneficiary .
    Obviously successive Tory govts have distorted and defiled the system to something that it isn’t supposed to be .
     
  18. Jimmy viz

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    Indeed but the way out of that isn’t to load even more debt on young people so that wealthy people can hoard their wealth.
     
  19. Marlon

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    Depends how you define wealthy , owning a terrace house isn’t wealthy IMO but naturally the Torys would define that to take the onus away from the richest . Some of the wealthiest pay lots more which is fair enough but even if they paid ten times more than a pensioner in a terrace house they are still left with vast more capital.
    The Tories would rather use the monetary argument than the wealth argument for obvious reasons .
     
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    I think they’re laughing at us.

     

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