WTF is wrong with the police in America?

If only the Police would police the Police and rid themselves of the bad apples that ruin the reputation for the majority...

 

these american police acted very well,they not all bad

 

F**k me. I thought I couldn't be surprised by much but my jaw hit the ground with this one. I don't know what's worse; the apology for a human being that carried out the arrest, or the culture of an organisation that laughs about it and wouldn't even dream of saying something to challenge it. Just shameful.

 

On the young un getting Clonked. I expressed my views clearly to the police present. At the syp/fans meeting. A week later. Asking how on earth the officer wasn't suspended. Given his actions. I heard every excuse imaginable. not only from a senior officer. ( That it was a couple of days later that any punitive action was taken). but one or two of the fans present. ( eg the lad was an antagonist in earlier vidoes) Antagonist or not. What happened was reprehensible. And the officer in question was put on desk duties. I told them. The actions taken against the officer originally fell far short of expectations of the public. And would come to haunt them .
The Last time I heard on radio. ( quite recently) the case was being looked into and I'll stand corrected. The officer now suspended.
I do believe most officers present. Were embarrassed at the situation. ( Gut feeling only)

 

The biggest problems with police in the US is that a hell of a lot of them are undertrained and/or badly trained. Taught to treat every situation like it’s a terror attack with everybody involved having AK-47s hidden behind their backs.

The position of power that it gives also tends to attract mainly knobheads.

 

A little bit of editing license.
Hence Boris.

 

Doesn't it say its Loveland not Fort Collins. It says Fort Collins police will be investigating (Loveland police chief Robert Ticer has pledged full transparency with the inquiry, which will be led by Fort Collins Police.)

 

I believe many senior positions in the various Police depts in the USA are political positions voted for by the public given the demographic of much of the US is it really surprising that the police are like they are over the pond. You can win an election to be a town sheriff and take office with little or no training apparently.

 

This is absolutely disgusting. The mentality of some people absolutely sickens me. How can you treat another person like that?

 

Whilst there are training issues, arguably the greatest failing in US policing is the inconsistencies between states, cities, forces(PDs and Sheriffs depts). By inconsistencies I mean in practices, procedures, legislation, training. There are some states and city PDs still practice choke holds and kneeling on necks as a restraint. Where concealed guns are permitted it must impact on the police’s mentality when approaching a suspect. This must be a contributing factor in gun deaths. During the past few years average gun deaths in the US are around 95 a day. It doesn’t help either when many forces in large conurbations seem to be institutionally racist.

 

I think a lot of people are missing the point when they refer to 'bad apples'. There are a few genuine scumbags out there. We've all met them, but they are very few and far between. Most people are alright. Good points and bad points, some you'll get on with, some you won't, but even the ones you don't hit it off with, they're alright.

I would guess that these coppers are alright. I would guess that when they entered the police force they were decent people. I would guess that outside of work they still behave like decent people. Maybe one of them is a genuine scumbag, possibly, but all of them? A tiny fraction of people are genuinely horrible, but we've got a load of them all in the same place? And a load of them in another police department? And in another, and another, all doing these horrific things? I don't like those odds.

What happened here is appalling. Everyone knows that. Have we got a hugely disproportionate amount of scumbags in the American police force deciding for themselves to commit these hideous acts? Or is there a culture within these institutions that is altering the behaviour of genuinely decent people and manipulating them into committing acts that they would have never done had they not been a part of that institution?

How often are we going to single out individuals as wrong uns before we realise the whole system is corrupt. It's corrupting the people within it and the society it polices. A man didn't do this, the establishment for which he works trained him to.

 

I live close by so I knew the story.

 

I like you Jay,your never far away from being spot on,would expand on what you put by putting society is getting more like this,amount of videos on social media etc ,mocking people who are fat,who are disabled ,videos of accidents etc,
Think it’s the done thing to laugh at people these days no matter if you’re police or whatever you do in life

 

Update...

 

I think the issues with American police is glaring from that update. Everyone agrees that it was an awful thing to happen, a court will likely convict the cops for assault, the state pays $3m in compensation but the internal investigation finds the officers acted properly. They did what was expected of them, they’re trained to do exactly that. Whilst they have instructions to care for mental health sufferers there’s no point in their written procedures for acknowledging the wellbeing of ‘suspects’.

 

Add in the power of police unions and the weird, bootlicking deference a lot of citizens (i.e. jurors) have for the police which means that they know that they are largely insulated from any consequences and can get away with murder (sometimes literally)

 

In news today about a 10 year lad getting kicked whilst on floor by a UK cop.
All on video, resigned from force and got a £800 fine.

 

USA is a truly fked up country.

 

If that was my mother I swear to god I would hunt him down and beat him to death until my hands and feet were beyond repair, and I would not fear the consequences.